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I will be on vacation and back at the beginning of July with the weekend edition, just in-time for Beta 1 of WordPress 7.1. Three more Gutenberg plugin releases will happen before that. </p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What also happened was that someone <a href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/01/hackers-hijacked-instagram-accounts-by-tricking-meta-ai-support-chatbot-into-granting-access/\">grabbed my instagram account in this AI hack</a> at Meta.  Although Meta reports this as resolved, I probably won&#8217;t get my account back. 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And sure enough, like you had to keep digging to get actually get to the answer what happened.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that was a situation where many, the plugin author themselves offloaded most of their customers to a hijacked version. And my own customers years later were running a hijacked version. So I wasn&#8217;t directly searching for this stuff, it just came up, and then I&#8217;m like, after you get three of them, it&#8217;s alright, now I just wanna see if I can find one.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I built the scanner and while I was scanning the top 2000 WordPress sites, I found one, and it was active. It was active, meaning the plugin, it&#8217;s called Scroll To Top. It was wired in to 20,000 sites, but it wasn&#8217;t active. So a lot of these bad actors, they will take their time, get a plugin that&#8217;s compromised in a lot of people&#8217;s sites, and then when the moment&#8217;s right, pull a trigger. And then at that point they can start to flow in bad content or SEO and actually do the compromise.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The one that I actually found was a compromise scenario, from what I can tell, the bad actor hadn&#8217;t actually pulled the trigger yet. So it was a success story.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:13] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, that is really, kind of makes it more alarming in a sense, doesn&#8217;t it? Because once I suppose there&#8217;s an active exploit, and people are beginning to report what&#8217;s going on here? There&#8217;s some strange behaviour on a website, I presume at that point eyeballs will fall on what&#8217;s going on and work will be done.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, as you&#8217;ve just described maybe months, weeks, possibly years, a plugin can have incredible functionality. It might gain widespread adoption, because it&#8217;s doing this one thing particularly well. Just with this dormant code sitting there waiting for the moment that&#8217;s opportune. Maybe there&#8217;s some scenario in the real world in which it will become a timely thing to be able to deploy that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s really alarming, isn&#8217;t it? Because who knows how many websites are currently sitting there with as yet undiscovered, back doors, or problems that we simply don&#8217;t know about because they haven&#8217;t been triggered? Yeah, that one is really alarming.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Austin, I&#8217;m going to give you a little opportunity because you keep saying my clients, and I don&#8217;t think we painted the context of that. Just tell us a little bit about what you do and how that aligns you to have, have an eyeball on so many websites. I think currently, when you say my clients, I think it&#8217;s true to say that you&#8217;ve got something in the order of 3000 websites that you manage. Now, if you were building those as client websites, that&#8217;s a lot of clients. Just tell us what it is that you do, and that might widen the debate a little bit.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:39] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> No, I don&#8217;t do consulting work anymore. So back in 2014, I transitioned into web hosting full-time. I run Anchor Hosting, and my business is, it&#8217;s a pretty simple business model. I resell other managed WordPress hosting services, and provide all of the support and maintenance on top of it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I primarily use web hosts like Kinsta and Rocket.net. They are larger companies. They have a lot more eyeballs on it. I like to layer as many layers between me and the web host infrastructure as I can, so that I can actually solve what I want to solve. And that&#8217;s the WordPress maintenance part.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I have a little bit more visibility than some. So that is more unique position than most. And I actually would say if there&#8217;s any takeaway from this conversation, the takeaway is any hosting company out there that has more data than me, they are sitting on a gold mine and they don&#8217;t know it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because any site that gets malware, that is the gold. If you can point AI at every malware situation or attack, you can sometimes back channel it to figure out where it actually happened, and start to paint a bigger picture. I would love to get my hands on like a web host that has millions of sites and run some scans, because that&#8217;s how you&#8217;re going to discover it, weed it out.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:21:59] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> And there&#8217;s maybe patterns going on. I don&#8217;t suppose every hacker of WordPress plugins is some kind of evil genius. They might just be, I think what&#8217;s often called script kiddies. The idea being that they are taking templates and copying and pasting these ideas far and wide.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And therefore I suppose patterns would emerge and maybe as you said, some of these larger hosts would be able to spot that pattern, and get out in front of these different problems which have, as yet, been undetected.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, so you&#8217;ve then taken an additional step. You&#8217;ve got yourself a URL, wpbeacon.io. Dear listener, as is always the case, anything that we mention today, so the links to the articles which Austin has written, I will put those in the show notes, but also I&#8217;ll link to wpbeacon.io. Just tell us a little bit about that and that, how that&#8217;s helping the community.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:52] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> So WP Beacon was again, an idea I threw together last month. Not a whole lot of planning. But it was just like, okay, I&#8217;ve got three of these now. These are basically in depth investigations. Where do you put it? Because this is different than a typical vulnerability database. Like a vulnerability database is really good about endeavour to find bad code.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is not bad code, this is bad actors. They&#8217;re two completely different problems. So I built WP Beacon as like my place to put all these findings. And the idea is actually have it be a legitimate feed for other folks, like another metric or another vulnerability database, but for supply chain attacks in particular.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:23:39] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> And so I suppose the idea being that people who are, I mean obviously if you&#8217;ve got one WordPress website, it&#8217;s fairly unlikely that you&#8217;ll come across WP Beacon, because you&#8217;re not in the business of being in the community or what have you. But if you are somebody that&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t know, managing multiple clients, half a dozen or what have you&#8217;re in the WordPress space, this is the kind of thing you might want to know about.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I suppose you are then hoping to be some sort of gatekeeper of knowledge around whether a supply chain attack has occurred. So let&#8217;s say for example, I&#8217;m considering putting a new plugin in. I find something on the wordpress.org repo, and it looks fine. Everything about it is screaming, yes, install me. I would go over to WP Beacon. I see that you&#8217;ve got a search on the homepage. There&#8217;s a list of the number of installations that have been covered, authors, tracked plugins that are being watched and what have you. I would be able to, in some way, interact with that website and gain an understanding of, yep, we&#8217;ve got nothing on them. Everything looks fine, or no, hold on, have a second thought. This thing happened last month. Is that again? Is that kind of what&#8217;s going on there?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:45] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> I think end users might find value in it, but I think the better target audience is, this is missing security research that security people don&#8217;t have. I see it as that. It&#8217;s like when I do a report and I put it up on WP Beacon, those identifiers of these bad actors can then be, action can be taken on that by real legitimate security people.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I have a friend, his name&#8217;s Sal. He used to work at Kinsta. So when I was dealing with one of these cleanups, I was messaging him privately. I&#8217;m like, hey, Sal, look what I found. And he is oh, gimme a second. I&#8217;m going take their compromise server offline. I&#8217;m like, what do you mean? So he whips it out and he gets their domain suspended, website taken offline. And this is like the crucial gap, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The research person wants to make people&#8217;s site safe. So if you&#8217;re out there and you&#8217;ve got a hijacked plugin installed and you don&#8217;t know about it, you need a research person, and a security person, to take care of the issue for you. And that is like taking down their infrastructure, taking down the bad actors infrastructure.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:51] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Oh, that is interesting, yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:53] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> My goal of WP Beacon is just like, this stuff needs to be more visible. We need to be drafting and documenting this is how the supply chain attack happened in this case. And here is all of the identifiers for the security firms to go for, and take down their infrastructure. To give some sort of incentive that like this kind of behaviour isn&#8217;t going to be tolerated or a signal to the bad actors like, we&#8217;re coming for you. We&#8217;re going to find you, we&#8217;re going to weed you out.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:26:21] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, so that&#8217;s interesting. So connections with hosting companies would certainly be beneficial, wouldn&#8217;t it? Because let&#8217;s say a bunch of hosting companies are pointing their staff at the WP Beacon data, then you could probably satisfy, I don&#8217;t know, 60, 70, 80% of WordPress instal by communicating with the bigger hosts. Because I imagine that&#8217;s where the majority of WordPress websites occur. I presume another angle would be the .org repo itself. The team over there, the Plugin Review Team and the Security Team and what have you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One ray of light, I suppose is that if you fix this, then you have fixed it. Whereas a lot of security problems keep coming back. Well, no, that&#8217;s not entirely true, is it? Having said all of that, I was fairly confidently thinking if you can, if you can get the plugin turned off so that it can&#8217;t be installed anymore, that&#8217;s one thing. If you can switch off the supply chain server, that&#8217;s another thing. But there&#8217;s going to be loads of different scenarios. It might be that they don&#8217;t have a supply chain server. It might be that they&#8217;re just defacing your website. And how do we disable that that particular functionality and the plugin?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I believe that wordpress.org has in rare situations deployed the, we will overwrite your plugin. I don&#8217;t know how to describe that, but I have a memory that in the past, something so catastrophic had happened inside of a wordpress.org repo, that there is the capacity for WordPress to say, okay, we&#8217;re taking command here, and we&#8217;re going to rewrite your plugins. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s very common, but I think that is something that can be done.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:59] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> In these situations, that&#8217;s exactly what they did. They reverted a patch, closed down the repos, and their patch is what stands.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:08] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Right.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:09] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> So I think a lot of what my, what I&#8217;m trying to do is complimentary to what everyone else is doing. And I think it&#8217;s a little bit more, it&#8217;s an unexplored area, what WP Beacon is exploring. We have all this data, let&#8217;s see what we can get out of it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But I do share your optimism, and also I would love this to just be a solved problem, and six months later we shut down WP Beacon, like it&#8217;s not even needed. But that&#8217;s just not how the world works, right? What I do hope will come from this is the bad actors that have been operating for years, 10 plus years, we make it harder for them to operate. I think that would be a more realistic success story of this project.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the bigger findings I found this past week, in the last few days, is this bad operator he&#8217;s been operating for the last 13 years. And what happens is his accounts get shut down, his plugins get shut down, and he just tries again. He opens up new accounts, new plugins, and he just keeps trying. We&#8217;ve got to make it a little bit harder for them.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:29:09] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> And also what&#8217;s really interesting there is that this is not, for you at least anyway, this doesn&#8217;t feel like a finished story. This kind of feels like, for you, now that you&#8217;ve put yourself in this seat, if you like, it feels each week possibly something new will be coming along, something that you&#8217;ve explored? Is that the case? I would like for you to say no at this point, no, there&#8217;s nothing new happening, but I the feeling that there&#8217;s quite a lot that you are uncovering on a daily, weekly, monthly basis.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:29:37] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> I do think it&#8217;s going to be harder and harder to find interesting things based on the raw data, using my technique of just going through and auditing things? That&#8217;s a good thing, right? If it&#8217;s harder to uncover these problems, that&#8217;s a positive indication that something&#8217;s happening.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I think I&#8217;ve been extremely lucky by reverse engineering a problem. Like, how does the malware get here? Oh, okay. So then figuring out that there&#8217;s a bigger issue at hand. And I also think it&#8217;s one of those scenarios that we all think people are searching through the data, but they aren&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve got a $200 month Claude Code subscription, and I can search through the data with that. It&#8217;s actually feasible for individuals to start auditing the data and to get more eyeballs on this in a way that would never been possible before.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I would encourage people to think bigger. If you&#8217;re an individual, you can take your site, download a backup and run it through Claude Code and do a file by file audit. It might take a few, Claude doesn&#8217;t like to do this, but it might take a few wranglings. No, look every line of code and tell me what you see. Do you see vulnerabilities? Do you see malware? Do you see any harmful things there? And an individual can do this, and they can get a very high level detailed report unique for their site.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:30:55] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> That&#8217;s interesting advice. Maybe in the future, some of the pain that you&#8217;ve been through with Claude trying to get it to behave in the way that you expect, maybe that be interesting data to put out? What are the prompts which you&#8217;ve seen that work and so on?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One thing which dawns on me, and I don&#8217;t really have the answer to this, because the wordpress.org repo, for good reason, has been wide open. What I mean by that is, lots of people can submit code. You don&#8217;t necessarily have to have a certain type of credential, or be a certain type of business and so on.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, if you look out there in the broader tech landscape, things like, I don&#8217;t know, the Mac App Store or the iOS App Store or Google&#8217;s Play Store. I wonder what their approach is to firstly the onboarding of new plugin developers. But then what the inspection is for updates. When code comes through and it&#8217;s purporting to make a minor change to a particular app on your phone, what is being done there?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I&#8217;m guessing that in the WordPress space, the fact that it&#8217;s run often by volunteers means that those kind of things are just going to be different. And perhaps those things need to be looked at. There needs to be potentially some more friction that&#8217;s added, or some more steps. And I know that a lot of work has been done by the Plugin Review Team to automate as much of that as possible, and to put some steps in place to make it so that those submissions get inspected in a more timely way. But I don&#8217;t have an answer. I&#8217;m certainly no expert. But it would be curious to see if there&#8217;s any lessons to be learned from the broader tech community.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:32:30] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> Obviously the openness of WordPress is its power. App Store versus Android, right, kind of comparison? We&#8217;re more open source. You could just do what you want. There&#8217;s pros and cons, right? So how do we make what we have more safe? And I think the answer to that is everything needs a hundred percent code audited.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How do we get there as quick as possible? That&#8217;s a token question. Like, how many tokens can we spend to audit everything? I have fairly good coverage now for my own customer base. What I do is whatever leftover usage I have, I&#8217;m auditing all of my plugins. And I do it in a way that&#8217;s efficient, meaning I only audit this one plugin version once. That gets assigned to a hash, a unique hash. Then I know, oh, okay, so all of my sites using that same variant are covered.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So a hundred percent code coverage is what we need to do now. And then long term, also in concurrently, we need to start auditing any changes that come over the wire. It&#8217;s a lot, right? Like wordpress.org is very popular. There&#8217;s a lot of code, but I do think it&#8217;s in a realm of realistic. If you are able to shave out a lot of the noise, we don&#8217;t have to audit everything. We don&#8217;t have to see every CSS file you&#8217;re changing, or image you&#8217;re changing. But we do have to look over every PHP line, every JavaScript line, that there&#8217;s nothing harmful in there. And then eventually we&#8217;ll start to catch things.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily a one off thing. We don&#8217;t have to wait around for Automattic to come up with a solution. The data is out there. Anyone with a laptop and a subscription could just create a mirror and see, what changed over the last, day, and then start auditing that. I think people think it&#8217;s too impossible.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:18] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> It feels like a large cliff that you&#8217;re staring at, at the beginning of this. And certainly in the past before AI, that cliff was, I imagine, more or less impenetrable But now the way that you&#8217;ve described, perhaps AI can be co-opted to do a lot of this work for us?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I wonder what you&#8217;ve got, if you&#8217;ve got any thoughts on the sort of permissions system. So I know that other, let&#8217;s say CMSs and certainly devices like Android devices and iOS devices, they come with permissions based systems. So for example, this code, it&#8217;s allowed access to the root file structure. Or it&#8217;s allowed access to the camera, or whatever it may be.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I know that there&#8217;s been debate in the WordPress ecosystem recently about whether something like that would be a good idea. At the moment, plugins, all bets are off. If you put a plugin in, it&#8217;s more or less got access to anything on your WordPress website.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s an absolute strength of WordPress because it enables anybody to do anything. But I suppose given that it can enable any anybody to do anything, it also prevents a very large threat surface as well. I don&#8217;t really have the answer to that. I just think that&#8217;s a curious thing to raise and see if you&#8217;ve got any thoughts.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:29] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> I guess my initial thought is I don&#8217;t necessarily want my WordPress site to feel like my laptop, where I&#8217;m constantly clicking things.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:35] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. Grant permission for this.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:38] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> I don&#8217;t know what the solution is either. I think some of those ideas are great when you&#8217;re thinking about making something from scratch, but they are not as relevant when you&#8217;ve already have an existing ecosystem. Like you can&#8217;t, I would think it&#8217;d be very hard to bring some of those concepts into WordPress at this point. We&#8217;re already past that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:59] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> That ship has definitely sailed.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:36:00] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> I want to be in the Wild West. I want to be able to code and do what I want to do. And especially with AI. If I got an idea, I just want AI to go to town, write me up the plugin to my spec, and not have to deal with some of those extra safeguards.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;d be great if we could find some way to make things more secure from an architectural standpoint, but that&#8217;s an architecture problem probably best suited for a new project.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:36:22] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> The truth is that this will never, ever be solved. I mean security problems online. There will be a no point in the future at which everything is always safe, because humans are ingenious, and there are really credible, credible is the wrong word. There are ways to make money, or to make it worthwhile for the bad actors to be doing the bad things. And so long as those incentives exist, there will be people trying to hijack websites, undermine the security of your computer or phone or whatever it may be. But this is certainly an interesting one.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it&#8217;s such a shame because with the benefit of hindsight, this was so obvious, and yet it hasn&#8217;t been a news story. Maybe it has in the past, I&#8217;ve certainly not come across it. But this whole supply chain thing is fairly new to me, and fairly alarming in the simplicity of deployment.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You literally purchase, or somehow get hold of, a popular plugin, not necessarily even a popular plugin, a plugin. And then instantaneously every one of those websites is up for grabs in whichever way you would like to grab it. Definitely something that the WordPress community&#8217;s going to have to wrangle with.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. I think we&#8217;ve hit the sweet spot in terms of time Austin. If it&#8217;s all right with you, we will wrap it up there. However, before we go, do you just want to drop a few little bits about where people could contact you? I am more or less certain that somebody listening to this podcast will have thoughts for you about getting in touch, helping out, or what have you. So tell us where you can be found.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:37:55] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> You can find me just by searching for my name, Austin Ginder. There&#8217;s not many Ginders. I&#8217;m on X, that&#8217;s my main feed. And you can also read along on anchor.host. I do blog posts there pretty regularly.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:38:09] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Okay. In which case I will just point everybody to the wptavern.com website. If you go and use the search feature, search for Austin Ginder. Austin, spelled in the usual way. Ginder, G-I-N-D-E-R. You&#8217;ll find the episode and anything that has been mentioned, any links or what have you, we will link to there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So thank you for chatting to me today about what I wish didn&#8217;t exist, but it does exist. Austin, thank you so much.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:38:34] <strong>Austin Ginder:</strong> Thank you. This was a pleasure.</p>\n</div></details>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the podcast today we have <a href=\"https://x.com/austinginder\">Austin Ginder</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Austin has been involved in the WordPress ecosystem since 2010, and since 2014 has run Anchor Hosting, a business that manages thousands of WordPress websites. 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But I think Matt&#8217;s been pretty clear that he&#8217;s not interested in doing anything like that, although maybe more recently had a change of heart on a bunch of things. So who knows?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tried to stick to the basics and really, the changes that I proposed in this talk, I feel like they can get done. In fact, I can probably do them myself with a little bit of community support. And that&#8217;s the purpose of the talk.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And they&#8217;re really, mostly about this problem we&#8217;ve got with the directory at the moment where we&#8217;re just being inundated with loads and loads of new plugins. It&#8217;s becoming really hard to be able to stand out from the crowd as a product designer, and as a user, just figure out which plugin that I want to use. And of course, a lot of that is due to AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nathan, we&#8217;ve seen, in the last 12 months, something like four times the amount of plugin submissions than 12 months ago. Isn&#8217;t that nuts?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:08:39] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> So I guess what I would say from there is, if I was to rewind the clock, I don&#8217;t know, let&#8217;s say three years, something like that, we had the same problem in that there was a deluge of things which needed to be approved from the plugin review team. A few bits and pieces were put in train, which actually appeared for a while to really get rid of that problem. You know, I think we got down to almost zero things in the queue for the plugin review team. And then coinciding almost perfectly, dovetailing into that came AI. The ubiquity of AI, the capacity of AI to create plugins and what have you. And that then presumably just turned that whole wheel back around.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And now we&#8217;re at the point where it sounds like the majority of the things which are in the queue are supposed to be AI plugins. You know, the idea that you may be able to rattle off 10 plugins in half an hour. On the face of it, that sounds like a great idea. Look, we&#8217;ve democratised plugin development and what have you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But we have processes on wordpress.org which need to be satisfied and fulfilled so that they are measured, so that they are inspected, so that they pass the requisite number of tests and what have you. And we&#8217;re facing a problem just of numbers. There&#8217;s just numerically too many things happening all at once for the actual humans to take care of it. Does that sort of sum it up, or have I missed bits of that out?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:10:03] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> I would make a slight change to what you said actually, because the humans are actually taking care of it. We have been adding new people to the team, we have been improving our tools, and we&#8217;ve been using a bit of AI ourselves to be able to stay on top of the queue. And right now we&#8217;ve got about a week wait time before your plugin is reviewed. Now that&#8217;s always, like if you look historically, that&#8217;s a pretty good number.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Where you could be mistaken is if you look at the number of plugins waiting for review, right? You might see a lot, you might see 800, and that is much higher than it was two years ago, but we are getting through them a lot faster now.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I think the metric to keep in mind is the wait time before review. Obviously we want to keep that at zero. Our team, we go into a critical mode. We say, oh, things are really bad if it&#8217;s two weeks. And so at the moment we&#8217;re one week, we&#8217;re pretty happy with that, trying to reduce it, of course.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The burden, there is a lot of burden on the Plugin Review team, but to me, that&#8217;s not the primary issue. The primary issue is if you create a product, if you create a plugin, then how do you stand out on the plugin directory amongst a thousand other plugins that do exactly the same thing? And if you are a user using WordPress, how do you find the right plugin for you? Or do you just give up on the plugin directory entirely and vibe code your own solution?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:11:30] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Do you believe that is in fact the case? Do you think that possible submissions, the developers of, let&#8217;s say, I don&#8217;t know, countless plugins out there have just decided to do exactly that? Because they feel that, you know, they get through the week wait, the two week wait, the five day wait, whatever it is, their plugin is finally authorised, it&#8217;s on the wordpress.org repo, but then just crickets because of the way that the repo is structured, the way it surfaces things, the way it, I&#8217;m doing air quotes here, favours certain things. Is that the gripe really, that really it&#8217;s an unfair playing field? It&#8217;s sort of stacked in favour of some players as opposed to others.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:12:05] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> That&#8217;s been a long running gripe of the WordPress directory. That&#8217;s not a new gripe. That&#8217;s been around for a while. And in fact, we&#8217;ve really made some good progress towards changing up the featured plugins, for example. More the issue is the number of plugins. The number of plugins on the directory is growing just incredibly. And so it&#8217;s because of that it&#8217;s harder to stand out in the crowd.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:12:30] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, the UI, I&#8217;ve always wondered how Google, for example, obviously billions of dollars spent fine tuning that algorithm. The anticipation, certainly when I&#8217;m using things like Google, is that it&#8217;s doing a credible job. But the truth is, I have no insight into whether or not it really is doing an incredible job, or whether I&#8217;m just missing out on a dozen things that would actually be superior given the search, and given the proclivities of Google to surface things based upon sponsorship or whatever it may be.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What does the wordpress.org, and again, I&#8217;m using air quotes, what does the algorithm actually do at present, to present what is on the page in the repository when I first arrive for the first time, or subsequently with search?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:13:15] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> One of the biggest differences between Google and WordPress search is that the, air quotes, algorithm is open source. And you can actually go on to GitHub now and have a look and examine exactly what it is. And it&#8217;s a whole range of things. I probably couldn&#8217;t do a good job of summarising it, but it takes into account recent reviews. It takes into account the plugin author&#8217;s ability to respond to support on the forums. And of course it takes into account keyword matching in the title and description and things like that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a cutoff, if I recall, on the length of the description that is included in the search thing to prevent people keyword stuffing. And that&#8217;s something we look carefully at during plugin review. There&#8217;s a whole heap of things, of course.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:14:01] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Are you satisfied that those whole heap of things that make up the search, or the display for whatever it is that you&#8217;re searching for, or the default when you first arrive at the page, do you believe that there&#8217;s room for improvement there or, yeah?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:14:16] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Oh yeah. Have you ever used the WordPress plugin search?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:14:18] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I really have. But curiously, given my background, I&#8217;m not the best candidate for doing searches because what I&#8217;m usually searching for is the name of the thing that I&#8217;m searching for. For me, because I&#8217;ve been in the WordPress space for such a long time and frequent all these different groups and learn from other individuals at WordCamps and things, I&#8217;m usually looking for the name of a product. Or certainly searching for this very specific, tight set of words around which I know it will surface. And then I find it. And use it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, if I was just, let&#8217;s go for example, with one of everybody&#8217;s favourites, SEO, if I just type in SEO and hit the button, I do not know what that would give me, and whether or not it would be a credible match for what I want.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And one of the things that I would add into that is Google&#8217;s algorithm being closed source. Whilst we, as an open source community, we don&#8217;t like the idea of that. There is something slightly ungameable about it. You know, there&#8217;s a big barrier between gaming the SEO on Google which WordPress doesn&#8217;t have, because once the algorithm is open sourced, it becomes, oh look, this is what we need to do to achieve rankings and so on.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:15:26] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> And there is a lot of attempts at gaming the algorithm. But one thing it&#8217;s really, really hard to game is active installs. And that is one of the big, big ranking factors. So if you have a plugin, if your plugin has risen to the top, then, yeah, it&#8217;s going to rank better. And that kind of makes sense from my perspective.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But then again, if you know what you&#8217;re looking for and you search specifically for the exact word and it comes up second or third or tenth in the search results, because it doesn&#8217;t have very many active installs, that&#8217;s a hard problem to solve.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:16:02] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> So what would be some of the remediation steps? It&#8217;s a bit of blue sky thinking this, and obviously everything that is about to come out of your mouth, caveat emptor, it might not happen, or it might be an idea which, you know, upon further reflection a year from now, you think, no, that wouldn&#8217;t have been a good idea anyway. But do you have some intuitions as to what you would like to try on the .org repo? You know, experiments to run for a short period of time to see what works and what doesn&#8217;t.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:16:26] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> I do have one experiment in particular I would love to run, but I have to set it up with you, Nathan. There&#8217;s a first step and a second step.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So the first step is, I want to be able to connect my wordpress.org account with my WordPress in install. So we&#8217;ve got this new Connectors API coming in WordPress 7, where we can connect our Open AI or our Anthropic accounts with API keys or whatever it is. I&#8217;d love to be able to log in with wordpress.org. I think that would be really cool. Now, have you ever tried going into the plugins, add new, and click favourites? What happens when do that?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:04] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I have not, no.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:05] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Okay. Well, I&#8217;ll tell you. Do you think it comes up with your favourites?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:08] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Oh, I see. Yeah, okay. Yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:11] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> You&#8217;ve just done it. It asks you to type in your username from wordpress.org. And that&#8217;s not a great user experience. And so if we were able to sort of connect up our wordpress.org account to our various installs, then at least we could have our favourites come up in our plugins. So that would be a step one.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then a step two is I would love to be able to store a list of GitHub repos, doesn&#8217;t have to be GitHub, just Git, Git repos, where I have my own set of custom plugins. Or maybe even authenticated via token, premium plugins. And add that into my wordpress.org profile so that whenever I&#8217;m creating a new WordPress site, I can go plugins, add new, click on my, I don&#8217;t know, we could call it like untrusted sources, that&#8217;s what some other app stores call it. And then see a list from wordpress.org of GitHub repositories or whatever, repositories on various different systems where I can just download the zip into my WordPress site just as though I&#8217;d uploaded, you know, I&#8217;d gone, upload zip via that menu.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why not? I think that would be a really cool experiment to run. That would allow people to run their own sort of alternative marketplaces in a sense. If they could get onto that untrusted sources list. And it also wouldn&#8217;t take away that control that wordpress.org really wants over the plugin directory, for good reasons. Because if there was an untrusted source that was nefarious or malicious, then we could just remove that from everybody&#8217;s profile also.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:18:50] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> So there&#8217;s a couple of things there. The first one was, it felt like something akin, now I have an Android phone. I don&#8217;t have experience with the iOS app store on a phone, but the Google Play Store I have familiarity with. And because it knows things about me from my past and the things that I&#8217;ve done in the past, it begins to have some sort of idea of, okay, here&#8217;s the kind of things that you like.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now I&#8217;m not suggesting anything quite like that, but it feels as if there&#8217;s a step slightly towards that. In other words, given that your 10 sites that you&#8217;ve connected to wordpress.org, they all seem to have an SEO plugin in them, they&#8217;ve all got a forms plugin, they&#8217;ve all got some sort of caching solution. Those kind of heuristics might then say, okay, we know that you like those kind of things, here&#8217;s a bunch of stuff that&#8217;s around that. Did I get that right or have I sort of overstated what you were thinking?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:42] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yeah. No, that&#8217;s good. And incidentally, it&#8217;s also the first sort of required step if we were to ever go ahead and make the wordpress.org plugin directory commercial, and allow plugins to sell, or sell subscriptions. That login with WordPress would be a necessary step.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:02] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Okay. And the next thing that you mentioned then was kind of like this idea of untrusted sources, or at least the capacity for you to say, I trust these things. And obviously, you know, we don&#8217;t want it to be that everybody ought to trust these things, so there needs to be a sort of volunteering in, or some sort of connection which you approve or something.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How many people are these days going out to places like GitHub? I&#8217;m imagining newbies to WordPress, probably no. But I&#8217;m imagining experienced people in WordPress, developers and what have you are certainly doing that. You know, they&#8217;re finding plugins over on GitHub and downloading them and doing all of that unnecessary work.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is an interesting idea, isn&#8217;t it? Being able to bind it so that essentially it appears in the UI, you click a button, it just does all the things that you need to do. Yeah, that&#8217;s really interesting as well. And Git, you know, ubiquitously Git.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:48] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yes. And it&#8217;s not just other people&#8217;s plugins that people are trying to access. It&#8217;s a lot of your own plugins. And talking to plugin developers, talking to people submitting their plugins to the directory, a lot of the time people would be actually just happy if they could easily install their own plugins on their various websites and on their clients&#8217; websites. That&#8217;s a part of them pushing it into wordpress.org, into the plugin repo is just to have it there accessible. They don&#8217;t really expect a lot of users. They&#8217;re not really going for some big product launch. They just want it there and available for when they build their website.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:21:29] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Okay. And then let&#8217;s move on to what I think was the third of your points there, which was the more commercial side of things. The idea of putting premium plugins, let&#8217;s call them that. Essentially a plugin where there&#8217;s a fee in exchange for getting access to that code base.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you think that breaks some kind of promise that the community over 20 years has opted into? I suppose the argument from the more open source side, if you like, let&#8217;s call it that, would be that it&#8217;s going to, in its train, bring all sorts of unexpected consequences. You know, the pressure to, I don&#8217;t know, raise a 3% fee for wordpress.org, which people would say, okay, where&#8217;s that going to? You know, on the Apple iOS store and on the Google Play Store. I think it&#8217;s around 30%. But, you know, I was just taking Stripe as an example. Something like a 3% fee, but it could be anywhere, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then of course you get into the whole argument of, okay, if there&#8217;s a fee attached to that and somebody&#8217;s getting paid for that, is there going to be a commercial pressure to promote only the ones where the fee is the highest, or the percentage that&#8217;s been agreed for that thing is the highest? You can see how it gets muddy basically fairly quickly.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:32] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yeah. It does get muddy and it does get messy, and I think it&#8217;s a necessary evil. Now, let me just start by saying I&#8217;m not really proposing this because the first step towards anything like this happening would be that wordpress.org must be transferred to the Foundation. That would have to be the first step.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then the second step is, yeah, you&#8217;d have to charge developers a fee. I think actually 8% would be the right amount, okay? So we have 3% for payment processing and then Five for the Future. That&#8217;s always been the thing, right? So let&#8217;s stick with that. So let&#8217;s stick with 5% goes to the Foundation.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what happens with that money? Well, we&#8217;ve got a problem in WordPress, don&#8217;t we? We have this problem that people aren&#8217;t contributing enough, and people don&#8217;t pay their due. And some of that is big plugins.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So what if we just put that into the foundation and use it to pay for WordCamps. Use it to pay for contributors. Use it to pay for the plugin review team. I&#8217;m not complaining. I&#8217;m a full-time sponsored contributor. But not all of the plugin review team are. So maybe use it to pay for some of those volunteer hours. I think that could be a really useful and helpful thing, especially if the Foundation has proper governance and proper oversight.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:23:53] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I have literally no idea what the WordPress plugin ecosystem is, and again, I&#8217;m doing air quotes, worth. And so what I&#8217;m meaning by that is, I don&#8217;t know how many dollars move around on planet Earth each year in order to get access to pro plugins. I&#8217;m imagining it&#8217;s not a tiny amount.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:15] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Not as much as WordPress hosting, but probably a lot more than people think.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:20] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Right. Because we are in a, an ecosystem now where $97 per annum for this thing, and $47 for this thing, or $399 for this other thing. These are not numbers which kind of shock anybody. And 8% of $399 a thousand times over, a million times over adds up to quite a lot.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so, again, I have no back of the napkin calculation there, but it does seem that that would be quite a considerable amount of money. The way that you&#8217;ve channelled it there, maybe that would be enough to satisfy people who don&#8217;t want there to be any commercial pressure inside of wordpress.org. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve had conversations with people who have a very different opinion, you know, you&#8217;re polls apart on this, and whether or not you&#8217;ve managed to persuade them with that argument or not.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:07] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yeah, look, Matt Mullenweg himself is polls apart from me on this last time I checked, and that&#8217;s okay. I get that perspective too. Introducing money into WordPress will have some big effect on the project. Maybe it&#8217;s the shock the project needs. But I personally am a fan of an expanding ecosystem. I love the idea that someone can make a living off WordPress. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve done for my whole career.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And if this goes another step towards enabling that for people, especially in the current climate where a lot of plugin authors and product companies and WordPress are experiencing a downward trends in terms of sales and conversions, then I think this could be a good sort of step in the right direction. Most importantly, it would give the confidence back into the market.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I&#8217;ve been sitting, actually, Nathan, I&#8217;ve been sitting on a plugin that I probably would launch commercially as well. I&#8217;ve had it ready to go for 12 months or more with a friend of mine. We&#8217;ve launched successful plugins before. And we just haven&#8217;t launched it because we feel the timing isn&#8217;t right. We feel the WordPress plugin, the ecosystem isn&#8217;t an exciting place to be. People aren&#8217;t really interested in new products in this space, especially if it has nothing to do with AI. It feels like there&#8217;s a lack of momentum, a lack of movement in the WordPress product space, especially when it comes to the new launches, right? The last big launch I can think of was Event Koi. Maybe you&#8217;re more in touch than I am.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:26:45] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> No, that was a big moment for me as well, that did garner a lot of interest, yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:26:50] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> And it seems like there&#8217;s a general sort of crickets when it comes to product launches in WordPress. Maybe this could be something to generate a bit more excitement again.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:00] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I don&#8217;t quite know if it&#8217;s fatigue or what have you, but there&#8217;s definitely been a sort of slowing down of, maybe it&#8217;s because of, I don&#8217;t know, maybe people just more broadly are not kind of quite so into Facebook groups in the way that they were before, or maybe they&#8217;ve been used to unsubscribing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:17] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Could be AI. Could be a ton of different things.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:20] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I think all of those pieces play into it. But I do think you&#8217;re right. I think WordPress has got a bit of a fight on its hands in the future, trying to maintain its interest in what, for the younger generation coming up, will probably be a bit of an AI first world.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would imagine for developers, the idea of being able to gain revenue directly at the source, and being able to be discovered directly at the source is quite an appealing thing. You don&#8217;t necessarily have to have the most incredible website. You don&#8217;t have to have an incredible marketing team to be discovered out in Google if you&#8217;ve got fighting chance to be discovered inside the repo, which is serving up the plugins to everybody. I imagine that&#8217;s quite an exciting prospect.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:05] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Oh yeah. When was the last time, if you had to install an app for your phone, you went to a website? I don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like on Android.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:10] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Not ever.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:11] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> No, you find it on the App Store. And not only that, but also if we did something like this, we&#8217;d have built into WordPress ways for developers to update their plugin. Right now, premium plugins have to ship their own updater, even though WordPress comes with one, right? Ways for WordPress to be able to handle a licence, or maybe not a licence key, but validate a purchase, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right now, every premium plugin has to do that validation step. Where did you get the plugin from? Do you have a valid purchase? So it makes a world of difference for product teams when they don&#8217;t have to distribute, when they don&#8217;t have to do quite as much marketing. And discoverability is much easier when they don&#8217;t have to worry about how they&#8217;re going to handle updates.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even just thinking through something like, am I going to have a premium plugin and a separate, a free plugin, or am I going to have a system where I have the free plugin and then my pro plugin extends that with actions, and so we have to have both active at the same time. Or am I just going to ship premium only and not have any free, and then I&#8217;m not discoverable on the directory anymore.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Like all of that it&#8217;s sort of solved in one step. It just makes launching a product for WordPress so much easier. 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And not always in that careful, accessible language that we&#8217;ve cultivated on the WordPress project.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But it&#8217;s been very clear. This is not good enough, this is what I want to have changed. And at first when I saw this, my reaction was frustration and even a little bit of anger. I don&#8217;t agree with your opinion. And after giving it a bit of time, what I&#8217;ve begun to realise is WordPress, I think it&#8217;s safe to say that WordPress has seen a little peril in the last little while, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;ve been coasting along, but there&#8217;s no guarantee that we are going to remain relevant in the discussion of, what am I going to use to create my new website, a few years from now? In fact, the answer to that question, it very well may not include WordPress, a few years from now. That is a realistic possibility. Something needs to change. And the only thing that can cause us, that can pull us unstuck from where we are right now is a strong leader, who has a strong direction.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, that leader might take us in the wrong direction. That leader might come in with a strong opinion and we might just go off the deep end and the whole thing might just come crashing around down by our feet.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But also, if we don&#8217;t do anything, I think that&#8217;s just as likely to end up in tears. On reflection, I&#8217;ve decided mentally to recast Matt in my mind from being this Elon Muskian figure, to being someone more akin to Steve Jobs, or DHH, or these figures that are known to be a little rough around the edges, you could say, but also visionary in terms of their product thinking.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so that&#8217;s the change in mindset that I&#8217;m intentionally taking now into the project, to keep me sort of a bit more motivated and to reframe just like the direction. What do we need as a project? And that&#8217;s what I think we need. We need clear, direct, active leadership.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:33:14] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> It&#8217;s kind of curious because the more recent past has seen an absolutely logarithmic growth in WordPress. I don&#8217;t mean in the last year or two, but let&#8217;s go over the last 15 years or something like that. And particularly over the last, let&#8217;s say eight years or something like that, it&#8217;s just grown and grown and grown. And I think it&#8217;s fair to say, maybe exactly as you characterised it, we have rested on our laurels.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think we could point the finger largely at AI, not entirely at AI. There&#8217;s a whole load of other things, history, politics, what have you, inside the WordPress space, which will have contributed. But there is definitely this inflexion point at the moment where a lot of people, I think, are questioning what is it that I need? What are the tools that I need to build a website? And so, like you said, there is this moment where there&#8217;s a precipice and that precipice seems to be getting a little bit closer.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it has been curious watching Matt&#8217;s reaction. I&#8217;m just reading the same things that you&#8217;ve been reading. The appetite that has been displayed there, and the expression of, you kind of need somebody to take the helm, and we need to make decisions. And it was all born out of this frustration at something, which on the face of it really ought never to have happened. You know, this capacity to commit a certain thing, which was not able to be committed because.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:32] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> You talking about a Akismet?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:34] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Well, yeah, a whole committee needed to decide on whether this, that or the other thing. Again, it&#8217;ll be really interesting, in the way that we discussed earlier about the plugin repo becoming commercial. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how the community reacts to that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve got a, obviously you are leaning into that and thinking, okay, better to have a dictator that&#8217;s got a direction than just slowly withering away, the community dying over time and the project failing. It&#8217;ll be interesting see if everybody has that same reaction, or whether people regard that as something that they can&#8217;t tolerate. And whether or not indeed that itself will haemorrhage the community, you know, create another fork in the road if you like.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:14] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Let&#8217;s talk about that. Like, let&#8217;s talk about, is the direction, we agree I think that we need a direction, right? We need clear, strong leadership. What about the direction though? How do you feel about this focus in on AI? I&#8217;ll give you a hint. For me, it&#8217;s hard to bet against AI, but the core, if you had to boil WordPress&#8217; sort of spirit down to three words, for me, those words would be, code is poetry. And I don&#8217;t see that reflected in the AI focus. What do you think?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:51] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> My supposition is that when I got into any of the open source projects that I was ever into, there was this philanthropic bit of me which definitely got engaged by that. And so I loved that. I loved the kind of community side. I think it&#8217;s part of me as a human being. I&#8217;ve often, rebelled is too strong a word, but I&#8217;ve always managed to find my way away from situations where there was somebody telling me what to do. 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But I&#8217;m not sure that facing a fairly, apocalyptic is the wrong word, let&#8217;s go with seismic, a seismic thing like AI, we&#8217;re up against a bit of a different animal now. And maybe we need to adapt our strategy.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And maybe it&#8217;s a temporary thing, you know, maybe that&#8217;s a way of dealing with it. I think, I could be wrong, memory could prove me wrong here. I&#8217;m pretty sure that in Matt&#8217;s Slack commentary that you&#8217;ve been referring to, I think it was a, it was a period of time, wasn&#8217;t, it? Wasn&#8217;t the proposal that I, you know, give me the reigns for a year, or something along those lines. I can&#8217;t remember. If I&#8217;m misrepresenting that, I&#8217;m sorry. But maybe it&#8217;s worth a punt. It certainly sounds like it&#8217;s convinced you anyway.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:38:15] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yeah. And then when we come to like AI strategy, there&#8217;s really two different aspects of that, right? We&#8217;ve got, how is AI integrated into WordPress? And I&#8217;ve been actually really, really happy with the direction that like the AI plugin has been going in. Because it&#8217;s all built around this principle of it being an add-on, being optional, I don&#8217;t have to use AI in my WordPress if I don&#8217;t want.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What worries me more is that there seems to be a real push from Matt and project leadership to be using more AI in our contributions, right? Using AI to create new pages on wordpress.org, using AI to create new plugins, right? Using AI to create pull requests and various other things.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so that part I&#8217;m a little bit more cautious about. And I&#8217;m especially cautious from the perspective of like the generational change that WordPress needs right now. 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And I feel like if I want to opt out of AI, I don&#8217;t have that option if I also want to be a WordPress contributor.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:40:11] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, it&#8217;s really interesting. I think the words to some, well, singular word to sum up my relationship with AI is confusion. I&#8217;m really conflicted by it because I can see the productivity gains on the one hand, and then on the other hand, I can see how potentially dehumanising it could be. And I slightly worry that we&#8217;re going to paint ourselves into a future in which the dehumanising wins out. And that concerns me.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I suppose the best analogy, and I&#8217;m just coming up with this on the fly, is it feels as if the aliens just landed and they&#8217;re now amongst us and there&#8217;s millions of them. And they&#8217;re just on our high street, and they&#8217;re walking around, and they&#8217;re in the supermarket, and there they all are.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And last year they weren&#8217;t there and life was just a bunch of humans and the animals that, you know, evolved on Earth. And suddenly we&#8217;re trying to figure out, okay, what do we do with these characters who are now part of our lives? But they&#8217;re way quicker than us at a million tasks, and they&#8217;re way faster than us, and way more productive than us. But also they are not us. Confusion is what I&#8217;ve got.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:41:19] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re alone. I think that&#8217;s a common feeling. The question I keep asking myself, keep coming back to is, are my children going to thank me for my AI contributions? Am I going to be like how I think of the, I don&#8217;t know, baby boomers? I look at the baby boomers and think, I&#8217;m a millennial, right? So I look at the baby boomers and think, oh, look, you wrecked the world with your corporate greed and pollution. Are our kids going to look at us the same way? Oh, you wrecked the world with your AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:41:49] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> That is definitely an outcome which has a non-zero chance of being true. And curiously, I have multiple children, to my knowledge, none of them use AI in any way, shape, or form. Now, that definitely maps to the kind of things that they&#8217;re interested in, but I do worry sometimes that the tech bubble that I&#8217;m in leads me to have this conception that AI will actually eat everything.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Whereas, AI is not going to get me to the swimming pool. It&#8217;s not going to get me to enjoy the view off the mountain nearby anymore than I enjoy already. You know, all these million things that it simply can&#8217;t do. But because I&#8217;m dwelling in a community which obsesses about it, and seems to portray the future as AI or broke, maybe I think about it too hard and maybe the breaks will come on because the next generation just won&#8217;t allow it, as you&#8217;ve described.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:42:42] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> I kind of hope so. Is that bad to say that? I don&#8217;t know. I enjoy using AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:42:46] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, you end up where you are. You haven&#8217;t gone anywhere new. So it&#8217;d be, I suppose it&#8217;d be a bit like having an iPhone four forever. Is that bad? No, because everybody&#8217;s got an iPhone four forever.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:42:59] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> We just end up somewhere different though. We wouldn&#8217;t end up in the same place.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Can I tell you an anecdote which really sort of informs a lot of my thinking around this? I was in a classroom, it was a media arts classroom of 15 year olds. And we were talking about referencing. And I suggested to these 15-year-old students, why don&#8217;t you just send ChatGPT all of your sources and get it to output everything in Harvard style so then you don&#8217;t have to do anything. Just paste that into your reference list.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And a full half of the class stood up out of their seats and said, no sir, we do not use AI. That is bad for the environment. We&#8217;re going to get dumb if we use it. We refuse. I was shocked. And it was such a strong response.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now that&#8217;s an anecdote, right? Might not be universal, although the Verge published this article just recently talking about how such a high percentage of Gen Z feel really terrible about the direction that AI is going in. So that&#8217;s, I think it&#8217;s worth consideration. And I&#8217;m not saying let&#8217;s not use AI in the project. All I&#8217;m saying is I think we need to hedge a little bit more than we are.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:44:14] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> What an interesting conversation. We started out with plugins and the plugin repository, and then we&#8217;ve smuggled in the conversation of our time, AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:44:22] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> I can bring it all together for you. Let&#8217;s bookend it. 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And I&#8217;m suggesting that what we do is we provide just a simple plugin header for people to be able to specify their level of AI use in their plugin, and have that surfaced on the plugin directory, alongside user reviews and last time you updated the plugin and things like that, just as a little bit of extra metadata.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It would do a couple of things. One is it would let us gather some data, first of all, about how many plugins use AI and how well they do. Maybe we find that plugins that use AI get frequent updates, and high reviews. And maybe we find the opposite. But we don&#8217;t have any way of knowing right now. We have no way of telling whether a plugin is using AI or not. So that&#8217;s the proposal.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:46:05] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. No, it&#8217;s a really interesting idea because I know that in the podcasting space, which I&#8217;m familiar with as well as WordPress, that we have these 2.0 tags and one of them is this sort of declaration of whether or not AI has been used. But it&#8217;s not a sliding scale, it&#8217;s just sort of binary. I think there&#8217;s three choices. Yes, some, and the whole thing, or something along those lines. So it&#8217;d be interesting to see.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think that&#8217;s a really credible idea. I suppose my only concern is, in much the same way that when I visited the person on the corner of my street who sells eggs on the street and there&#8217;s an honesty box, and we go and buy the eggs and we pop the money into the little honesty box. I am well aware that most of those eggs go missing. Nobody puts money into the honesty box. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how that in itself would get gamed. In other words, if the intuition was, okay, people now love the declaration of, there&#8217;s no AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let&#8217;s imagine a scenario where that turns out to be the popular thing, it would be an honesty box decision, wouldn&#8217;t it? Okay, I definitely built my entire plugin entirely with AI, but it&#8217;s going to promote much more effectively if I say that there was no AI used with that. You can see how the human in the loop is the weakest link there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, I think we&#8217;ll knock it on the head. Luke, what an absolutely fascinating and broad ranging discussion. Just before we go away, do you want to tell us a little bit about what it is that you do with your Crossword podcast just so that we can maybe get some earbuds listening to that as well?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:47:31] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Yeah, absolutely. Jonathan Wold and I have been recording Crossword. It&#8217;s a WordPress podcast. We&#8217;ve been going for years and years, over a hundred episodes. We&#8217;re into season 11 now of Crossword, and love it if you would join us there and subscribe in wherever you get your podcasts.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:47:50] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> What&#8217;s the URL for the website?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:47:51] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> You can find us at crossword.fm.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:47:54] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Perfect. Well, Luke, what a fascinating discussion. I really appreciate it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dear listener, we&#8217;ve been battling with the hail in Australia. We must have pressed pause a dozen times, and Luke&#8217;s had to repeat sentences over and over again. By the time this goes out, I&#8217;ll maybe have edited all of that away, but I appreciate your sticking power in what has proved to be a fairly fraught recording process. Thank you, Luke, for chatting to me today.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:48:17] <strong>Luke Carbis:</strong> Thank you, Nathan. See you later.</p>\n</div></details>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the podcast today we have <a href=\"https://crossword.fm\">Luke Carbis</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Luke has been immersed in the WordPress world for around 20 years, with experience touching upon many strands of the ecosystem. He’s started his own businesses, worked in agencies as a developer and product lead, contributed to WordPress Core, helped organise WordCamps, and is now a member of the plugin review team. 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My name is Nathan Wrigley.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jukebox is a podcast which is dedicated to all things WordPress, the people, the events, the plugins, the blocks, the themes, and in this case, how to create affordable and accurate WordPress translations using AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you&#8217;d like to subscribe to the podcast, you can do that by searching for WP Tavern in your podcast player of choice, or by going to wptavern.com/feed/podcast, and you can copy that URL into most podcast players.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you have a topic that you&#8217;d like us to feature on the podcast, I&#8217;m keen to hear from you and hopefully get you, or your idea, featured on the show. Head to wptavern.com/contact/jukebox and use the form there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So on the podcast today we have Leonardo Losovic. 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So then if you want to edit the translation, if you want to fix it, then you&#8217;ll just edit the translation and then there you will see there&#8217;s something that doesn&#8217;t appear right, and then you fix it in the WordPress editor.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In my scenario right now, we go from nothing to everything. There&#8217;s no in between. Now with WordPress 7.0, they&#8217;re adding two things. One is adding the AI Connector. So we will have more and more and more capabilities to interact with AI. And the other thing that we have that is unrelated, but I think it will end up being related is phase three, which is the communications in the WordPress editor, right? That two people can communicate with each other, like Google Docs style.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so we&#8217;ll have these windows on the right hand side from the WordPress editor, right? So you can add a comment. Somebody can add a comment saying, hey, do you think this is right? And the other person on the other side can say, yeah, this needs to be fixed. So they can communicate via the WordPress editor. Whereas right now you have two people interacting with each other. You can have one person and one AI.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So then imagine the scenario where you translate everything and then you edit the translated post. And you might have those same windows with a kind of sticky post, and pointing an arrow to some word saying, hey, I&#8217;m not sure if this is the right translation. Please check it out.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I can see that WordPress 7.0 will give use the infrastructure to start adding this additional interaction. So then I could translate all the content as I&#8217;m doing right now. And if I find out from the AI that a world has not been, it doesn&#8217;t have 100% confidence that it&#8217;s the right translation, maybe we can use that phase three functionality to add a sticky post to have the AI interact with the person, say, hey, this translation, I&#8217;m not sure, please double check.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:04] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> This leverage is so much interesting stuff. So again, just in case the user hasn&#8217;t been keeping up with the WordPress news, 7.0 has, or WordPress 7.0 I should say, has this capability which wasn&#8217;t quite ready for the WordCamp Asia release. The idea was to release 7.0 at WordCamp Asia, but because of technical reasons, there was something that needed to be changed and amended about the way that data was handled and stored in different tables.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">7.0 will bring the capability to have collaborative editing, so think Google Docs. And it really didn&#8217;t occur to me until quite recently, because somebody suggested exactly what you said, I was always imagining another human being, being in that interface. So it would be me and Leo having a conversation through comments or what have you in that same WordPress post.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But of course now we realise, well, of course, the AI work, the MCP and the adapters and all of those kind of things allow that thing in the post to be not a human being, it could be an AI. And so that&#8217;s really interesting.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So maybe we&#8217;ll come in, have a conversation, something along the lines of, please could you just check, this would appear to be fine but there seem to be a few errors here and there and everywhere, and it may be able to come back with a suggestion.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That stuff is so powerful, but yet completely unrealised at the minute. It&#8217;s kind of just on the horizon, but when that feature drops, I think that will be quite an interesting experience. You&#8217;ll be able to talk about the content with an AI, based upon what is in the content area of WordPress. That&#8217;s going to be really, really fascinating. Gosh, wow. What a future.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is that stuff ready? Do you know if WordPress is going to ship with those kind of capabilities? So you mentioned things like the sticky post to sort of highlight, imagine a post-it note or something like that. Something which can highlight? Are all of those foundational pieces ready or were you just sort of blue sky gazing there?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:02] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> I haven&#8217;t seen it, but we can all picture that happening. So you know that 7.0 is giving us the foundation to build all of the things. Once the foundation is there, it&#8217;s up to the community to implement these use cases. So yeah, I&#8217;m quite confident that it will happen, but I haven&#8217;t seen it. I haven&#8217;t seen it yet.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:19] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I do love the idea though, of communicating through that interface. That&#8217;ll be really interesting to see how that changes the calculus of how we write things and who we write them with and all of that kind of thing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So Gutenberg, which we don&#8217;t talk about too much really at the moment, but Gutenberg had four phases when it was first talked about. So we&#8217;re in phase three at the moment, which is this collaborative editing. Broadly it was collaborative editing was the poster child of that release.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the fourth one, so that may be many years away, I don&#8217;t know when phase four will come about, but the fourth one is bound very much to translation. Do you know if there&#8217;s any sort of foundational work being done over there? It may still be a complete black box. It&#8217;s just the word we&#8217;re going to deal with translations. Do you have any wisdom or insight into what&#8217;s happening over there?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:03] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> No. All I know is that Matt Mullenweg was postponing that for the very, very, very end. And since we&#8217;re still working on phase three, I don&#8217;t think that there will be any phase four work happening anytime soon.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:16] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> No. Okay. So we&#8217;ll have to wait and see how that drops. But it could be another interesting phase. Let&#8217;s see what that does.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, okay, now let&#8217;s sort of dig into the weeds of how your system works. So you mentioned that if I&#8217;m in the data view for posts, one of the options that I have when I&#8217;m hovering over a post, you know, delete post, edit post, what have you. It sounds like in there somewhere you inject a translate. And presumably when you hit that button, automations that you&#8217;ve previously set up, say, translate to French, translate to Portuguese, translate to Chinese and Japanese, that would then be triggered.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you then create separate posts? So that the post that&#8217;s now in Chinese is separate to the original one, or as some plugins handle it, do you take the original one and just inject metadata into that post?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:21:04] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> If we&#8217;re talking about my plugin, my plugin is called Gato AI Translations for Polylang. I depend on Polylang. So Polylang is a plugin that works by creating separate entries for each of the languages. So you have a post in English, and when you translate it, you&#8217;ll create another post in French and another one in Spanish and another one in Portuguese.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then you have a different plugin like WPML which has a different strategy, which is to have only one post and then all the individual strings are translated on runtime. So you&#8217;re not statically creating different versions of the post, but you have only one post and then you translate the strings, the actual content.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It really is up to what is the best strategy for your site, what it is that you are most comfortable working with. There are other plugins, of course. There is TranslatePress, there is Weglot, MultilingualPress. They all have different strategies. I do like Polylang because the post is created in advance. Then all the same rules for your WordPress site apply. You can cache the page, you can export it statically, and it also is fast because you don&#8217;t need to translate the string.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Like finding a specific string can be very expensive. Like a string, you know, that you need to find from English and translate to French. The string might be like, I mean 1000 characters long. You know, that can become very expensive. And if you do that on runtime, even if you cache it later, that can be very expensive. Yeah, my plugin is based only on Polylang, but it&#8217;s not the only plugin.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:28] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. So there&#8217;s a whole range of different things out there, but you&#8217;ve obviously opted for Polylang. Is that a commercial kind of pro plugin or do they have a, is there a free version that you can leverage?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:37] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Yeah. It&#8217;s free. And they have the pro version that is, I think 99 USD per year for one domain, if I&#8217;m not wrong. But it&#8217;s completely optional, you can use Polylang free and it&#8217;s more than enough. Actually, Polylang Pro, they have a few features and the main feature that they had historically is that you could use machine learning for translating the content.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They use DeepL as a service, like Google Translate. Now the thing is that I wouldn&#8217;t use DeepL anymore. Even my own plugin, at the very beginning had, even nowadays, it has integration for Google Translate and for DeepL. But AI is so much superior than those. So you can still use Polylang Pro for the other features, but the machine translation one, there&#8217;s no need, Polylang free, more than enough.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:23:23] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> So when, let&#8217;s say for example, that I&#8217;ve got a post and I&#8217;ve translated it. I&#8217;m just beginning my journey, figuring stuff out. And again, we&#8217;re talking about your solution here. So, you know, you can speak to how it works, not how all the other ones work.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I click the translate button and I&#8217;ve now got six posts, the English original and then these five other languages. How does that surface? Are they like child posts of the original post? Is there an easy way for me to see, okay, here&#8217;s the German version of that, and it&#8217;s bound to this? Is there a filter system or what have you?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then how does that look on the front end? So if the original string is, I don&#8217;t know, example.com/post-one, am I from an SEO point of view, does that stay nice and tidy? Like, I don&#8217;t know, it goes example.com/g for German, forward slash post-one, or how does that all tie together?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:13] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> All right, so this is once again, a feature provided by Polylang. When you create the translations, all the posts, they&#8217;re all parallel to each other. They don&#8217;t have a hierarchy. They&#8217;re not like the child post from the origin post. And if you want to only see the post for one specific language, there is a switch, like a switcher button at the top menu bar, and you can select the language.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So by default it says all languages, and then you&#8217;ll have all the posts. So in a way, if you have, say that you have 10 posts and then you have 10 languages, that means that you have now 100 posts. So it can be a bit clutter. So then you go to the top menu and then you select English, and then it only shows you the English ones.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the important thing is that, say you&#8217;re using AI to translate, you only need to deal with the origin post and nothing else, until you need to double check if the translation is right, maybe fix one thing here, one thing there. But otherwise, the whole time you are only dealing with the origin post.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So what I do is I always have my selector in that origin language. So it&#8217;s in English and I only see the English post. So then I do translate, and I know that the translation will be created alongside all of the categories, and all of the tags and all the feature image, right? But I don&#8217;t need to deal with them. So then I also don&#8217;t need to see them on my screen. They create clutter, so then I remove them.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then to see them, to visualise them, yeah, once again, Polylang, it gives you the option of choosing the language by appending the language code in the URL. So mysite.com/fr/the-slug, that&#8217;s for French. Or you can also use subdomains. So you can have fr.mysite.com/the-slug. So that&#8217;s something that you can configure. And then basically when you go to that page and you add the language code in the URL, then you will see that blog post for the selected language.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the way that Polylang handles all of this is it connects a post to all of its translations via a specific taxonomy, like a tag that they created, I think it&#8217;s called language, if I&#8217;m not wrong, or language relationship, I&#8217;m not completely sure now. And so it ties all the post to all of its translations. And the thing is that then when you go to the post in French, it can add the href lang meta tag that is telling Google that this post is a translation of that post.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that is important for SEO purposes that these posts are not two independent entities, but one is a translation of that one for French. So Google will understand a lot of the relationships, and if the user who is searching for information, they&#8217;re searching for information in French, then Google will know to serve the French page. And if it is in Spanish, Google will know to serve the Spanish page.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:01] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> It&#8217;s an amazing wraparound solution, isn&#8217;t it? In that all of this is just sort of handled and what you essentially end up doing is, the user that is, you click the translate button and once you&#8217;ve got everything set up correctly, it just, off it goes.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have a question though about amendment. So let&#8217;s say for example, I realised that my blog post was full of inaccuracies and errors and there&#8217;s just wrong throughout it. And I then go in and I make amendments. Do I then need to restart that whole translation process or can I rely on it kind of figuring out, okay, amendments were made, let&#8217;s just do that automatically for you? How does amendments to the original, in my case, English work?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:37] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Yeah, well, I would change that. I would say do not do any translation until you&#8217;re 100% sure that the post is final. And that&#8217;s the main way to waste your time, and to waste money in tokens. Because you execute the translation, and then you realise that something was wrong. Maybe this H2 tag was supposed to be an H3, then you fix it, and then you run the translation again. And then you realise that was another mistake, there was a typo. And then you had to run the translation again. And then you&#8217;re like, oh, but that image has embedded text in the image. It doesn&#8217;t work on the translated post. And then you run the translation again.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So all of these things are common sense, and you don&#8217;t think about them until you see the error happening time and again and again. So what I do is I have a checklist actually on my website. I have a blog post where I have every single item that we need to pay attention to in advance of executing the translation. So executing the translation is when you go to the post list, you select the post, and then you select translate. Easy, and it takes five seconds.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But before you do that, you need to make sure that the post is final. That means no typos. That means all the headers are the right header. That means that all images are correct. They have alt attributes. They have the title that you need. There&#8217;s no embedded text in the image, even adding an embed from another source.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Say that you have a YouTube video that you&#8217;re embedding on your content, and the YouTube video is in Spanish. When you translate that to French, maybe the YouTube video is not useful anymore. So all of these things you need to check from a multilingual point of view when you&#8217;re looking at your origin post. And then you&#8217;re like, okay, this origin post, now it&#8217;s okay. It&#8217;s perfect. You publish the post, then you translate.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:29:26] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I got it. Yeah, I mean that makes sense. But, should you need to, it&#8217;s a process of clicking the button again and kind of beginning that process. But yeah, good idea to have those checks and balances.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was at an event not that long ago in which AI was used inside of a WordPress plugin, inside of a post, to ascertain the content of things like images and infographics. So as an example, there was data held inside of a graph. So, I don&#8217;t know, whatever that data was, bar charts, pie charts you can imagine, but also just images and what have you. And although this may not be handled and maybe it&#8217;s blue sky thinking, I was wondering what the capabilities are for handling those kind of things.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So in the case of an image with a chart in it, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we could replicate that chart, but instead of all the labels being in English, if they could be in German or French or whatever it may be. I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s utterly out of the scope, even in blue sky thinking in terms of AI and translations. But I was curious if you had an inkling whether things that were not just text-based content might be handled in the future as well by AI. Not specifically addressing what you do at the moment, but whether that seems to be on the horizon.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:30:41] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Yeah, well, to be honest, I think technically it is feasible, but even if it can be done, I don&#8217;t think it should be done. And the thing is this, I&#8217;m promoting that we can translate our websites to as many languages as possible, only because we can. So you have your website in one language, then you can have it in two, then you will have it in five. You can have it in 30 languages. Why wouldn&#8217;t you do it? If you can target new countries and new visitors, sure, go ahead and do it. AI gives you the possibility.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But now imagine that you also want to translate the images. Every single image on your website will be replicated 30 times. That sounds scary. I wouldn&#8217;t do that. What I will do is to have one single image that is language agnostic, that there&#8217;s no text inside. And if you had to add text, maybe in your page builder, maybe in Gutenberg or Elementor or Bricks, maybe you can create an overlay and place the text on top. It&#8217;s a more difficult solution and a bit more complex, but it&#8217;s clean because then you can translate that as part of text, and the image, you don&#8217;t need to replicate the image 30 times.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:31:44] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, that&#8217;s an interesting point. And that leads me to wonder whether it&#8217;s possible to, for example, an image caption. Whether it&#8217;s possible to translate that into 30 different languages whilst still referencing the exact same image.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, I don&#8217;t know, in English it might say, here is a picture of a dog walking by a beach, and then the French equivalent caption, and the German equivalent caption and what have you. Then in effect, you&#8217;ve recycled the same image, but you&#8217;ve also, the person viewing it in German would get the German equivalent of that. Again, I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s possible, but maybe that&#8217;s an interesting.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:32:14] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Yeah, actually that&#8217;s how it is right now. So when you translate the post, you will also translate all of the entities associated to the post, the tags and the categories and the featured image. So the featured image will have meta data associated. So when you upload an image to the media manager, you add meta data, the title, you can add a caption. So all of that text, it&#8217;s in one language.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, you can also translate the image by creating a new entry, once again using Polylang. The image has a language associated, so the origin image will be in English, and you can create a new entry in French, and the title will be translated to French and the caption will be translated to French. But the image itself is the same for both entries. So the JPEG or the PNG, that one is not duplicated. So you&#8217;re not increasing the size of your hard drive. You&#8217;re creating another entry on the database for the media entry, the custom post media, or the attachment, but not for the actual physical file.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:33:11] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. So it&#8217;s much more lean, basically doing it that way, isn&#8217;t it? I didn&#8217;t actually know that it was done that way, but that&#8217;s certainly how Polylang handles that. Okay, that&#8217;s interesting.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So you mentioned that, I think one of the through lines in what you&#8217;ve been saying is because you can do it, why not just do it? It kind of makes sense when you think about it like that, but I&#8217;m just wondering what the real world impact of this is. You know, in terms of things like discoverability, and whether or not it really genuinely does have an impact on your business. Let&#8217;s say for example, I don&#8217;t know, you&#8217;re shipping widgets from England to France, and suddenly you translate your site into Japanese and Chinese.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would assume that that could only have a positive effect, but also, equally, I&#8217;d want to know what the data was on that. And I don&#8217;t know if you have, given that you are in the translation space quite heavily, I don&#8217;t know if you have any data to hand which would compel people to do this, to prove, look, it really is worthwhile. Anecdotally, it feels like it would definitely be worthwhile. Why not, would be the way of phrasing it. But I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any data lurking in your head which would categorically say, oh yeah, this is definitely it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:16] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Nathan, unfortunately, we&#8217;re screwed.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:19] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> The answer is no.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:34:20] <strong>Leonardo Losoviz:</strong> Because when it&#8217;s so easy, everyone will do it. And when everybody does it, you&#8217;re not moving forward. You&#8217;re just moving, you&#8217;re running just to be on the same spot. If you&#8217;re the only one who is translating your site to 20 languages, you will be far ahead from everybody else. But because it&#8217;s easy to you, it&#8217;s easy to everybody. And if everybody does the same, once again, you are not ahead of them. You&#8217;re on the same place.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So this is the problem of technology, right? And the problem of AI. Now we&#8217;re all very productive with AI. I&#8217;m using AI to code my plugin, and I think I&#8217;m pulling ahead. But my competitor is also using AI to code his plugin. So we are both running just to stay on the same place. So in a way, unfortunately, it becomes a situation in which you need to do it just to not fall behind.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:35:07] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, it&#8217;s kind of like the arms race mentality in a way, isn&#8217;t it? But also, that&#8217;s quite a compelling way of framing it, because you can be sure that, okay, if you&#8217;re writing a blog and you&#8217;ve got a limited audience, maybe there&#8217;s limited scope in that. If you are in a business and you are, certainly if you have pretensions of dealing over international borders and your competitors are doing this, it is exactly that arms race mentality, isn&#8217;t it?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then you are compelled to do it just to be ordinary, just to be the baseline. 20 years ago, would&#8217;ve been entirely different because of that would&#8217;ve been a very expensive calculation and translating into, let&#8217;s say, Japanese. If there&#8217;s no ROI on the Japanese translation, that is money which would&#8217;ve been probably wasted.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, with AI costing literal cents to translate, it does feel like that is the calculus, right? We are doing it because it can be done and we know that the competitors will be doing it, so we ought to do it as well. Maybe that&#8217;s all the argument needs to be. 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My name is Nathan Wrigley.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jukebox is a podcast which is dedicated to all things WordPress. The people, the events, the plugins, the blocks, the themes, and in this case a second look at exploring AI&#8217;s impact in WordPress agencies.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you&#8217;d like to subscribe to the podcast, you can do that by searching for WP Tavern in your podcast player of choice, or by going to wptavern.com/feed/podcast, and you can copy that URL into most podcast players.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you have a topic that you&#8217;d like us to feature on the podcast, I&#8217;m keen to hear from you and hopefully get you, or your idea, featured on the show. Head to wptavern.com/contact/jukebox, and use the form there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So on the podcast today, for a second time, we have Matt Schwartz.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Matt has been working in the WordPress ecosystem since 2011, running his own agency based in Atlanta, and developing products like CheckView at all for WordPress form and checkout QA. Matt&#8217;s expertise lies in how agencies can smartly, and cautiously, incorporate AI into their workflows for real tangible wins, and how to avoid potential pitfalls.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He was on the show last week to record the first of this two part mini series. You might want to listen to that prior to this, but it&#8217;s not strictly necessary.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode, we build upon last week&#8217;s conversation. Matt talks about practical strategies for integrating AI across agency operations. 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Hello, Matt.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:04:05] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Hey Nathan, thanks again for having me this week. I&#8217;m super excited to dive back in.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:04:09] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Thank you. So we recorded an episode last week, and we intended to do it as a one hit. So get it all recorded, tied off within 40 minutes or what have you. And then we began talking.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So last week we began talking and at about the half an hour point, it became obvious to me that we weren&#8217;t going to capture it all in one recording. 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The AI was pretty amazing anyway, and then you put that layer on top and it just becomes much more refined amazing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:14:41] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> There&#8217;s actually some companies doing that already where you sign up for their SaaS, they basically store all the MCP data on their server securely, because that&#8217;s always a concern. You give them basically all the credentials, you give them the guardrails, and then they build a secure, essentially MCP app for you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So there are some early options out there for that, that agencies could also look into if they&#8217;re less technical. 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Hopefully you don&#8217;t just blindly use it, but I do think the risk is lower.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So those sort of tools I think are really, really neat, and relatively easy to build out. So reporting tools, profitability dashboards, things like that. Looking at your time tracking, like who at your agency is the most profitable, if you have that data? Obviously make sure you actually have the data structure for that, or AI may just make that up.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But we&#8217;ve, you know, used that even at our agency and I think it&#8217;s been helpful for us to find patterns that we didn&#8217;t know where we were spending our time and effort. Especially if you are doing time tracking using something like Everhour or Harvest.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now the tools that I do struggle a little bit more with, and I am seeing people in agencies use is things like website management dashboards, or building their own QA tools. Because those things, I think the risk is higher of things going wrong.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:05] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Public facing again, yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:07] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Right. And you&#8217;re giving this third party access to all of your websites and it&#8217;s not like, you know, a big SaaS. This is something you built internally, which means Claude doesn&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s wrong, right, until you tell it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So a good example, and not everyone may feel this way but, you know, I&#8217;ve seen some agencies that are building replacements for management dashboards like ManageWP, WP Remote, those sort of things, which is connected to everything and is kind of their most important infrastructure for their clients. Personally, I think that that&#8217;s a little risky to be doing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, if you&#8217;re doing the right due diligence and you have a technical team and you&#8217;re doing manual code reviews, sure. There&#8217;s an argument to be doing that if it&#8217;s also, I think, solving something specific to your agency. I talked about this in the last podcast, replacing SaaS products when there&#8217;s a nuanced solution that&#8217;s specific to your agency, I think could be really helpful.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But if you&#8217;re just replacing SaaS products to save 30 bucks a month, I think that doesn&#8217;t make any sense because you&#8217;re going to end up spending a lot more on maintenance, I promise you, than if you just stuck with the SaaS product, if it does what you need. So I think there&#8217;s an argument there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:18] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I think it&#8217;s really interesting. And I do wonder if we&#8217;re on the precipice of, so this is me sort of staring into the crystal ball a little bit. I wonder if we&#8217;re into the era of sort of disposable, one time apps. So you have a function that you need to do this month like, I don&#8217;t know, you must file your taxes this week, but you&#8217;re miles behind. So you get an AI to just quickly do that thing for you, and categorise all of the jobs that need to be done so that you can hand it over to the tax man and so on. And then you just put that on ice. That thing no longer needs to exist.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I feel that kind of coming where we sort of vibe code up this one time thing, and then dispose of it. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m entirely in agreement with that as an idea, but I feel that that is coming. But to your point, I think anything public facing, we&#8217;re still in the era of, really, watch what you&#8217;re doing. It needs thorough testing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:21:09] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Exactly. And thorough code review because, you know, ultimately while the AI coding, I think has gotten really, really good, it&#8217;s not a hundred percent there, and it doesn&#8217;t have any context. It doesn&#8217;t actually know what it&#8217;s doing. It&#8217;s all patterns. So there is an argument to be made that, yeah, it may get 80% there, but if no one&#8217;s actually checked the code review, two months from now, it decides to delete all your websites out of your management dashboard, well, should have done a manual code review, right? And it&#8217;s on you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I do think there&#8217;s an argument, same thing with like QA tools. Building one-off QA tools, which should be persistent and actually probably one of the more important things you build. It should do the same thing every day. It should almost be dumb. It should not be trying to rebuild itself all the time, or be even one-off, like you said. It&#8217;s not, I think, a good idea to build a one-off migrator typically for that reason, even though I see people doing it in agencies. Unless you think it&#8217;s just a low risk project, I do think, you know, you have to think about that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To your point about the one-off task though, I think again, if it&#8217;s a low risk item, one-off makes actually the most sense because a lot of times if you know this is going to be a one-off thing, you then are subconsciously being like, okay, I&#8217;m going to use this once and the cost is not that high and that makes sense, because you&#8217;re not having to maintain it. But if you know it&#8217;s going to be something you&#8217;re going to be using for the next five years and you don&#8217;t plan to pay a developer to review it, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a smart idea, at least not right now.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:39] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> That&#8217;s a good calculus I think to have in the background. Okay, so that&#8217;s good. So caveat emptor basically, use your discretion. If it&#8217;s public facing, maybe think twice. But also if it&#8217;s something that you want, you absolutely bulletproof need it to be reliable and predictable a hundred percent of the times that you run it. Again, maybe there&#8217;s a human in the loop there. So that was sort of vibe coded things that you might do in your agency.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I feel that&#8217;s going to be a real area of growth, whether or not it will be profitable growth or useful growth, I&#8217;m not entirely sure. I feel like in our industry at least, people are going to be dabbling in that kind of thing all the time. You know, trying to figure out new, clever tools to achieve a thing, which maybe in the past would&#8217;ve been a subscription thing that you paid $20 a month for or something. So we&#8217;ll see. We&#8217;ll see how that goes.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, moving on then. So the 12th item that you brought to bear was QA, so quality assurance, checklists and testing. Right, run us through this one then.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:23:33] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> I know I just said when you&#8217;re building a QA tool, using AI to build an internal vibe coded tool is probably not the answer. But actually what I&#8217;m going to say right now is not contradictory to that, because what I&#8217;m really talking about for QA and testing is more so having AI help you build things like checklists, right? You already have a good context usually with your SOPs. So it can help you build your SOP checklists. It can also help run the low risk items automatically. And again, I know I talked about risk a lot, but I think that&#8217;s how you have to consider it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So one really neat thing I&#8217;ve seen a lot of agencies start using is Claude Skills, which basically just means that you teach Claude a process. Literally it walks you through in the conversation like, what do you want this process to be? And then you can run that later in context.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So a really cool example of this is if you are, let&#8217;s say onboarding a client, or you&#8217;re launching a site. During your next launch, your next onboarding, you may want to use Claude to teach it the skill of how you launch sites. And then it can automate a lot of those items. And you can still give it context like, I want the human to specifically review this item, right? Or, I want the human to check that no index isn&#8217;t set, right? Because that&#8217;s like a high risk item, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:55] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. Yeah, that&#8217;s a big one..</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:24:56] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Right. That&#8217;s one we all, I think, have dealt with at some point in our.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:01] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Too many times.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:01] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Right. Too many. Exactly. That&#8217;s the key. And that goes back to really that vision document I said on the last call. Having an AI vision document where you go through these checklists and you&#8217;d be like, okay, we want a human to be involved, or we don&#8217;t. You could actually tell Claude this. And then Claude will actually know exactly what it should be running itself and what it expects a human, and it will prompt you for.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But I think that is the beauty of this is, you can make your whole automated process when it comes to tools with QA and anything really related to that checklist, whether it&#8217;s launch or anything like that. Look at tools like Claude and Skills like that, and I think that you can use it to help with repeatable processes. And that will actually help most agencies not only speed things up and save on margins, but I think a lot of times they&#8217;ll do more testing than they did before.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And this, again, falls into that sweet spot where like AI&#8217;s really good for the things that you knew you should do but you have limited time. And testing is one of those items. You want a hundred percent coverage, but in reality that&#8217;s not going to happen. So let&#8217;s have the human do the really important stuff and everything else we would&#8217;ve never gotten to anyways, let&#8217;s have the AI do it. And that&#8217;s where I think you can use these tools.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:26:11] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Do you know what&#8217;s really interesting, and we sort of made light of it in the previous episode, the fact that there&#8217;s hallucinations and what have you going on all the time. But I do think there&#8217;s definitely a moment coming where I think some of the more straightforward things, like for example, the checklist, the binary things, is no index switched on? Yes. No. Okay, that&#8217;s a no.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think I am getting comfortable with that now. You know, just that, okay, we asked the AI that question, it&#8217;s delivered as an answer. I&#8217;m almost at the point now where I&#8217;m never going to go back and check that was true. If it was something much more broad like, is my SEO strategy bulletproof? Well, no. It&#8217;s never going to know whether that&#8217;s the right thing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But these much more binary things, many of which, if you add them all up, could take you hours when you&#8217;re finally launching a website. Yeah, I think there&#8217;s something to be said for just sort of handing that stuff over. And I don&#8217;t know, maybe you check it frequently, infrequently, less frequently as time goes on. But yeah, always check the no index one.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:08] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Yeah, I was like, I would still check the no index one, even if it&#8217;s binary. But to your point, a lot more of the very black and white items, I think it can handle a lot better than it used to, but I think it still comes down to risk. Like if it&#8217;s, yeah, no index, I&#8217;m still going to check it. But if it&#8217;s something else that just is not that key. Yeah, I think we&#8217;re all becoming a little more comfortable or a lot of us are coming more comfortable with that. And I think that&#8217;s okay because you know the risk exposure really.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:27:35] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Well, and also, especially if it&#8217;s QA and checklist time, hopefully you have done the bits and pieces, you really are at that point just making sure that you&#8217;ve polished the thing that needs to be polished. So hopefully that&#8217;s a bit of low hanging fruit where you&#8217;ll catch the things that you missed, and maybe you&#8217;ve done the due diligence there already.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, so that was number 12. We&#8217;re approaching the end. We&#8217;ve got four more to go. So number 13 links directly to WordPress specifically. The WordPress plugin market impact.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve got to say, this has me slightly concerned, because I feel that this could be a good thing for our ecosystem, but also possibly a bad thing. But I&#8217;ll just hand it over to you to paint the picture.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:18] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Yeah, definitely. So I think you even touched on this a little earlier when you were saying there&#8217;s going to be more one-off apps being built by agencies. And I think that also applies to a lot of plugins that are essentially one-off solutions, right? They are utility plugins. They solve one thing really well.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think that sort of thing is already seeing the impact. If you talk to a lot of plugin developers, especially some of the larger shops, they&#8217;re seeing a drop in sales. And that is a real thing that&#8217;s happening. They&#8217;re seeing a drop in sales, especially for smaller plugins. Because a lot of agencies and customers are solving that with AI. Maybe it&#8217;s a couple files of code, it&#8217;s a lot easier for them to build it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now I still have concerns around, are they having a human review that? Like I talked about. But humans are going to do what they&#8217;re going to do, which some people are just going to run with that. That ultimately affects sales.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I think that is hurting a lot of the ecosystem when it comes to the smaller plugins out there. And even some of the bigger plugin developers are essentially sunsetting their smaller plugins, because they realise they&#8217;re not getting as many sales and they need to focus on what they consider their moat, or their platform, you know, big plugins that AI&#8217;s not going to be able to replicate or people shouldn&#8217;t trust to replicate.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But if you&#8217;re building a small plugin, I&#8217;m not going to call any out, but I think that there is some concern there. And I think ultimately for WordPress, I don&#8217;t think that really hurts the WordPress ecosystem from the standpoint of plugins in general, but I do think it raises the bar of what a good plugin will be.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And that kind of goes with the agency land. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening with agencies too. It&#8217;s just the bar is being raised. You have to have a more complex plugin that actually solves someone&#8217;s needs now, not just a small one that solved it, but now they can use AI to do it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And some people argue that that&#8217;s going to continue all the way up with the most complex plugins out there. But I do think that there are, you know, unless AI dramatically improves. If it&#8217;s 80% there, that&#8217;s great and all, but it&#8217;s what we talked about earlier. You can&#8217;t really run with that in production at 80%. And that&#8217;s the difference between a really good SaaS or really good plugin versus something that was homegrown and just falls apart.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:30:38] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I think I have a slightly different, maybe more community focussed, approach to this because one of the things that I think worries me is the, how should we say it? The slow ebbing away of the community. And obviously if you are a, I don&#8217;t know, a company launched onto the stock market and what have you, you&#8217;re all about the money, right? The bottom line is you&#8217;re going to make money, distribute that with your shareholders, whatever, yada, yada. But the point is to make as much cash as possible and do things with that cash.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have a very different calculus here in that the community is the thing which largely builds the software, maintains the software, promotes events. There is a bit of me which worries that if these, let&#8217;s say developers who&#8217;ve got one plugin, it doesn&#8217;t do 3000 major things, it just does one or two little things, but it&#8217;s been their way of getting themselves into the software, and figuring out how it all works, and meeting the community, and being engaged and, you know, all of that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That slow ebbing away of that is something that I think our community and open source communities like ours need to be just a little bit mindful of. Because it does feel as if AI could definitely eat a lot of lunches. And I think we see that actually. I think we can already see that in the real world with things like attendance at events and the amount of events that are being put on, yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:31:57] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> I think you&#8217;re correct. I was actually going to bring this up in the sense that I am already seeing it within a lot of the agency groups. There&#8217;s just not as much engagement when it comes to posts, I think, and that sort of thing. Because people use AI more to find solutions, which means they&#8217;re not as engaged in the community. Which, to your point, plugins would kind of work the same way, especially the smaller plugins.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And yeah, there&#8217;s definitely something I think I&#8217;m concerned and kind of sad about already. Because like that&#8217;s why a lot of us are in WordPress is for the community. And I 100% agree with you. Not to mention if those guys, the smaller guys go away, then there just ends up being these massive plugin companies, which have their place, but WordPress wasn&#8217;t built on all massive plugin companies. So If those smaller ones go away, then that&#8217;s a little bit of the WordPress spirit I think are lost for sure.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:32:47] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I think we just need to be very mindful about this slow, like I say, wicking away or haemorrhaging of the community. And because at some point, the calculation no longer works. You know, there just aren&#8217;t enough community members around to make it interesting for other new community members to join, or to stick with things. Or to update their plugin or whatever it may be.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And maybe that is just a consequence of the way the world is moving, I don&#8217;t know. But having lived in the WordPress ecosystem for over a decade, I think it would be a shame if that baby was to be thrown out with that bath water.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. Alright. I think we&#8217;ve done that one. So the next one is, well, the next one kind of speaks directly to that actually, which is the idea of, I guess spreading your wings a little bit further and realising perhaps that AI empowers you to do things outside of WordPress. And you&#8217;ve entitled this Experimenting Beyond WordPress. Again, off you go.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:33:37] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> So this is something I am seeing some agencies doing, which is, because you can use AI now to use unfamiliar stacks, there&#8217;s really two parts. One is just unfamiliar stacks, or unfamiliar platforms, you don&#8217;t know. You can really try out new platforms a lot faster now. It will tell you exactly what to do, you know, step by step, or it&#8217;ll just do it for you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So there are agencies, I think looking at other platforms where certain projects may make sense outside of WordPress, where they&#8217;re using that in that capacity and it&#8217;s allowing them to experiment. Where in the past, just sticking in WordPress, you have all your knowledge there makes sense to do, right? You don&#8217;t want to know 10 different platforms. But I think AI&#8217;s made that easier to dive into these other platforms. So that&#8217;s the first thing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second thing I think is that, now that you can actually use chat to engage, you are seeing some agencies, and some freelancers, that are saying, well, I don&#8217;t need the WordPress infrastructure at all. I just want to go back to pretty much like static or HTML type websites because I know I&#8217;m just going to chat with it and then I don&#8217;t have to worry about security or updates.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And obviously I think that only would apply with certain websites. It&#8217;s not going to apply with highly functional websites. I think that&#8217;s not really going to work. But for like your brochure site, I think some agencies are experimenting with some other platforms out there like Astro and the EmDash setup going on with CloudFlare.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, and I think that was a direct response actually. They realised, oh, people are going to want to chat with it. We could build this WordPress, what they consider like an upgraded version, in their mind.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think that, you know, it&#8217;s good to experiment. I think what WordPress does really well, to your point though, is they&#8217;ve hopped on the API centric side of things, building the right framework, not trying to force a certain thing down our throats, but actually leave it really open.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think that&#8217;s ultimately good because that&#8217;s how open source works. That&#8217;s why I think AI will have a good position with open source is. To your point you made previously, all the data&#8217;s out there, all the documentation&#8217;s out there. It&#8217;s going to be able to be extremely flexible. And I think that&#8217;s really why WordPress is still, in my opinion, going to exist and thrive.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But you are seeing agencies that are looking outside of just Core WordPress, because they can experiment with just a lot less time now. And they can also try out some tools that may be a better fit for certain projects.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:36:18] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> There&#8217;s a lot of technologists in our community and we love tinkering, don&#8217;t we, and playing with new things? So it&#8217;s fairly inevitable. It goes with the territory.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. Alright. So that was Experimenting Beyond WordPress. I think I&#8217;m going to skip 15 there because I think we covered quite a lot of that. So I&#8217;m just going to go straight to number 16, which probably will become 15, if you know what I mean, when I put it into the show notes.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So the next one anyway is called, whatever its number, is Risks and Cautions. So we&#8217;ve built what I feel is like a fairly solid argument for doing this kind of stuff. And now towards the end, we&#8217;re going to knock it all down. No, we&#8217;re not. But what are some of the risks that you might point people towards?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:36:58] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> A hundred percent. This is, I think, probably one of my favourite sections because people don&#8217;t really talk about these risks as much as they should. If you go on LinkedIn, it&#8217;s just like all rainbows and butterflies. And we&#8217;re building a new feature every day, and I think that noise can make people feel like they have FOMO and they just jump into AI and they don&#8217;t think about the risks. So I think this is actually a really important section for any listeners to listen to.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think one of the first items, probably a little obvious, but with security issues, with AI tools, a lot of companies, every company, I feel like at this point is inputting keys and all sorts of things into these AI chatbots. And ultimately, like those tools can still be hacked. And actually legally, a lot of them say when you submit into the chat, it&#8217;s actually considered public record. Anything you submit to them. That&#8217;s literally what OpenAI made a legal argument recently about. So keep that in mind when you&#8217;re doing this.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are some ways to do this securely. You can look into, and I think that&#8217;s something I would recommend agencies doing because they, you are holding onto client data. And ultimately you don&#8217;t want that stuff getting leaked.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another thing, kind of on another point, which I personally have less concern with, but I think some agencies bring up a valid point, which is every time you talk to these chat bots, et cetera, they&#8217;re keeping track of all these conversations. So I know some agencies are being like, hey, how much does a website cost in my state or my country? Only use the data that other agencies have told you. And I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s really doing it, but people are doing that and they&#8217;re, you know, it&#8217;s not pushing back on them.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Things like that, just be aware of, I think what you&#8217;re inputting in, because it isn&#8217;t necessarily being leaked as far as they&#8217;re being hacked, but that data make get spit out to places you don&#8217;t want it to by other parties through chat.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:38:52] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I feel that at some point in the future, some gigantic disclosure, something will be disclosed, which is so horrific that it makes us all sort of take a collective breath when we suddenly realise all we&#8217;ve given over. We haven&#8217;t got there yet, or at least to my knowledge we haven&#8217;t. But I feel that at some point in the near-ish future, some jaw dropping disclosure will occur, which will make us all think twice about exactly what you&#8217;ve just described.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What are we giving up? What have we given? But also what have we not consciously given? Which kind of bit of our business did we unintentionally open up for the AI to have access to that we didn&#8217;t intend to? And if we had the time again, we wouldn&#8217;t have allowed it to, and so on and so forth. So, yeah. Okay.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Any other things on the risks and cautions? I feel that there&#8217;s a couple more lurking in there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:39:43] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Yeah. I think that one&#8217;s to be the most obvious that most people are talking about. One I think people aren&#8217;t talking about though is handling errors when you&#8217;re building your own tools. Essentially, a lot of times you may vibe code something, right, which is great. But because you&#8217;re not really going into the depth of every situation, it&#8217;s just making kind of assumptions, the AI, of what should be there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And because it&#8217;s so easy and you&#8217;re like, well, I&#8217;m saving time, people don&#8217;t really outline all of this. And so they don&#8217;t really put error handling in these tools. And what happens is, of course there&#8217;ll be some edge case and, you know, things just break. And again, depending on the tool, if it&#8217;s an internal tool, you can probably get away with that. But if it is a public facing, or a client facing tool, that is the beauty I think of having a human actually review it with logic is they are going to have context that the AI doesn&#8217;t have.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To your point earlier, like subconsciously might be giving certain information to the AI that we don&#8217;t necessarily mean to. But you also might be leaving things out because you think you&#8217;ve already told the AI, or you think it&#8217;s going to assume a certain way, and you can&#8217;t really make that assumption. It ends up really backfiring in the long run, I think.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And that&#8217;s why being very conscious about error handling and being like, okay, we&#8217;re going to set up logging, we&#8217;re going to set up testing. Validation is just the responsible way to be building these tools that really, I feel like no one talks about.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:41:09] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> No. And the curious thing about it is, because it&#8217;s such a black box, I feel that almost every other technology that we&#8217;ve interacted with has been much more, I don&#8217;t know how to describe it. There&#8217;s been a higher barrier to entry. It&#8217;s more difficult to interact with it. You&#8217;ve had to, I don&#8217;t know, press buttons or enter code or what have you. Now you are just communicating. And maybe we&#8217;ll even sort of drop into voice communication at some point where we&#8217;re literally just talking with the thing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There&#8217;s just no, how to describe it. There&#8217;s just such a small amount of friction that is required to interact with these things. And so it kind of lulls us into this perception that it can&#8217;t make mistakes. It&#8217;s error free and what have you. And we know that that&#8217;s not the case. I didn&#8217;t really describe that very well, but I hope you got a general sense of what I was trying to describe there.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:41:54] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> I think you&#8217;re right. I mean I can give an example like building out CheckView, which is obviously like a, it&#8217;s a QA tool for WordPress sites. But one thing is, I knew a decent amount of QA before I started building it. But I learned so much context building it, and we weren&#8217;t using AI when we built the tool, right? That I would&#8217;ve never gotten out if I had used AI from the beginning.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because like you said, there&#8217;s just such little friction. You as a human just don&#8217;t have to have that much information. You can just dive into something, having no idea on what you&#8217;re really doing, which is a blessing and a curse. And I think just being aware of that. And building in the right logs, and errors to at least essentially provide a safety net for yourself, knowing that you&#8217;re not going to know everything is really important.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:42:34] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. And then a couple of other things which we&#8217;ll just sort of gloss over fairly quickly because maybe they&#8217;re sort of slightly common sense. Obviously, you know, you&#8217;ve got here sensitive client data, which might be, without your knowledge, being scooped up by the AI agents. So monitoring that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Over dependence on AI vendors. This feels like everybody&#8217;s really become dependent on a handful of companies. Maybe you could count them on one hand, I think basically. There&#8217;s three or four really, that everybody seems to be using. So that may be something that we want to be mindful of.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And of course, the last one of your bullet points under Risks and Cautions is just the fact that AI makes some mistakes all the time.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:43:15] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> All the time. I think most of that&#8217;s common sense. Really, the only one that I think people aren&#8217;t talking as much about is the overdependence on AI. Not to date this podcast, but I&#8217;m going to a little bit anyways. For example, with Claude, they are removing Claude Code from their $20 plan right now. You know, if you&#8217;ve built this into your agency process, well, get ready to pay, you know, a hundred bucks for every employee, which could be thousands of dollars.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:43:40] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> You can only imagine how valuable that will be. And maybe it&#8217;ll be 200 bucks, or a thousand bucks or whatever it may be.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:43:46] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Right. A lot of these companies obviously are subsidising the cost, and so I do caution agency specifically. That&#8217;s why having that AI vision is important, but also considering making it independent enough from your processes that you still can function if this thing does change around, because I do think there is going to be a pushback on cost at some point.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So for example, like when you&#8217;re building a product, I&#8217;m seeing some companies that are building AI so integral to their product that it will not function without AI. Or going to have to raise the price by 10x. And so like even with CheckView, our tools are there, but we haven&#8217;t built it in in such a way that you can&#8217;t use the tool without it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think at the agency level, it&#8217;s the same idea. For the most part, trying to avoid building it in a way that you couldn&#8217;t reduce the AI needs if you needed to. Or just preparing for that the costs could go up and like, you know, if you give it to all 10 employees now, you know, at 20 bucks a month, get ready to possibly pay a lot more later.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I just think that&#8217;s something important for agencies specifically to keep in mind. And I know that seems contradictory to what I said at the beginning of this, AI everything, but I think it&#8217;s important.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:44:59] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> I&#8217;m not a financial wizard in any way, shape, or form, but that does seem to be something which, sure as night follows day, is going to be coming, is the requirement to repay a lot of the venture capital that the AI is currently burning through. And yeah, so maybe a significant price hike.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And we&#8217;ve all got used to these practically free tools, and maybe that&#8217;s something that is not going to be in our future. So that&#8217;s a really good point. Put that bulwark in place to make sure that you are protected from that should it go up by, like you said, 10x or whatever it may be?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, so I did say that there were going to be multiple, I think 16 is what I said. This probably will be the last one. This is likely outcomes for agencies. So, Matt, you get to stare into the crystal ball and tell us what your final thoughts are in terms of what you think are likely outcomes.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:45:47] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> So I think some of this is already happening.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hiring, I think, is slowing down in some agencies because they&#8217;re realising they can automate more. They don&#8217;t need as many, essentially non-specialist employees, or contractors. And I think that is a real thing that is happening.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s going to be necessarily a long-term issue. Hopefully as, essentially the floor raises, work gets better, more agencies will be focused on providing more value, more strategy, those sort of things. Again, the execution becomes a little bit of a commodity. So having essentially more junior team members who usually do that execution isn&#8217;t just quite as necessary. So I think that&#8217;s going to continue to come up.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But again, I think it&#8217;s going to be balanced out with even the costs we just talked about with the AI tools. There could totally be a point where the tools might get expensive enough that it makes sense to have a junior do this execution.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:46:45] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Get the humans back. Yeah.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:46:46] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Yeah. And we go back the other way. Some people are saying that could happen. I could see the argument for that. But I think that&#8217;s one thing.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another thing with agencies is you now can really productise more of your services. And this comes into the automation process that we talked about. You can take your processes, you can really package them up, I think. And there has been a lot of talk about productising services, but I think now you can get more nuanced.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So if you, for example, only build sites for plumbers, well, with AI you can get way more specific on plumber specific service needs, and build out a process with what you&#8217;ve already done, plus, with AI to make that, I think, a lot easier for the plumber or the client, to get what they need out of it. In the past, I think most agencies were trying to build SOPs as we have time. And it, you know, it&#8217;s just a really difficult process. And I think that&#8217;s where agencies I think could help a lot.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then the last point I&#8217;ll make around here is really around that the tools I think will change. It will be, again, less about the execution of tools, how you&#8217;re building your sites. More about the actual automation. And then really just testing and monitoring and making sure everything&#8217;s working how it&#8217;s supposed to be. The human will essentially become more of the manager of the AI. And that extends, I think, to even the tools.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I could see there being more QA and monitoring tools out there for more specific needs. Because now, you know, AI can build 90% of this, which is great. I save that cost, but I know I need to pay maybe 5% of that towards some tools that actually watch and monitor what&#8217;s happening, and make sure these automations, and these websites, are really doing what they need to be doing. So I think there is going to be possibly a shift in that way around what sort of tools that we&#8217;re investing in as far as agencies go.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:48:40] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> So that we could describe as a bit of a marathon. I think, really, you really took us through the gamut of everything that could possibly affect an agency in the AI space. We&#8217;re in the year 2026, let&#8217;s see how it ages. But that was a really interesting deep dive into all of the different bits and pieces.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Matt has very kindly put together some show notes. What I think I&#8217;ll probably do is crib those. Maybe I&#8217;ll put them into the WP Tavern show notes, or maybe I&#8217;ll link to a Google Doc or something like that where you can see them. But you&#8217;ll be able to see all of the different bits and pieces that we went through. There&#8217;s a lot more on that document than we actually had a chance to go through. So definitely do check that out.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What I can say is that the future is definitely going to be interesting. Whether or not any of the predictions you&#8217;ve made will turn out to be true, time will tell.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But what a fascinating chat. Thank you so much for chatting to me. And I really appreciate you sticking around and doing the second episode somewhat unexpectedly with me.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just before we sign off, Matt, where can we find you? Where are the best places online to hang out with you?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:49:49] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Yeah, definitely. So definitely, you can find me on the Admin Bar Facebook group. I&#8217;m also in LinkedIn, trying to be better about that. You can also check me out. I&#8217;ve got a Slack channel. Checkview.io, of course. Inspry.com. Feel free to reach out if anything comes up.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Definitely, overall I would just recommend agencies dabble in this. Don&#8217;t be reckless, but definitely see what makes sense for your agency. Document it all out ahead of time. And I think that that&#8217;s really going to be agencies strong suit is, can we leverage this stuff in a smart way?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:50:21] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Well, you&#8217;ve certainly provided us with a lot of food for thought. So once more, go and check out the show notes on wptavern.com. I will probably link to the document that Matt has created on both part one of this and part two as well. So you&#8217;ll be able to check both of those out.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Matt Schwartz, thank you so much for chatting to me today. I really appreciate it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:50:41] <strong>Matt Schwartz:</strong> Thank you so much, Nathan.</p>\n</div></details>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the podcast today we have Matt Schwartz.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Matt has been working in the WordPress ecosystem since 2011, running his own agency based in Atlanta and developing products like CheckView, a tool for WordPress form and checkout QA. Matt’s expertise lies in how agencies can smartly and cautiously incorporate AI into their workflows for real, tangible wins (and how to avoid potential pitfalls). He was on the show last week to record the first of this two part mini series. You might want to listen to that prior to this, but it’s not strictly necessary.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode, we build upon last week’s conversation, Matt talks about practical strategies for integrating AI across agency operations. The discussion starts with what it means to give AI access to your agency’s ‘brain’, using tools like project management wikis and connecting them with AI chatbots to streamline knowledge sharing and avoid common AI hallucinations.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We then get into MCPs, which stands for Model Context Protocol, and talk about why this area is quickly becoming a game changer for agencies looking to securely connect AI agents to multiple internal systems without complex, risky API configurations.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The conversation covers how to use AI for building internal tools, highlighting where it’s low-risk and where you should be more cautious, especially with public-facing or mission-critical systems. Matt explains how agencies can leverage AI for QA and checklist automation, freeing up time for deeper human review of other important tasks.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We also discuss the impact of AI on the WordPress plugin market, including potential consequences for plugin developers and the wider community, and whether the rise of AI-generated ‘disposable’ tools could erode the collaborative spirit of the WordPress community.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We end by chatting about the importance of approaching agency AI adoption with eyes wide open to the risks. Data security, overdependence on vendors, failure to handle errors, and the reality that AI still makes mistakes. Matt shares his outlook on how agencies can position themselves to thrive as AI reshapes the industry, from hiring strategies to the next generation of productised services.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you’re running an agency or freelance business in the WordPress space and want to get ahead with AI thoughtfully and securely, this is the episode for you.</p>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\">Matt&#8217;s show notes for Part 2\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>9. Giving AI Access to the Agency’s Brain</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>A practical quick win is connecting AI to the agency’s project management system, wiki, docs, SOPs, or past tickets.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This allows AI to answer questions using the agency’s actual internal knowledge.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>It can help with:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Sales handoffs</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Support consistency</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Project management</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Developer onboarding</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Client-specific context</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Process reminders</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the quickest hacks is giving AI access to your agency’s existing brain before asking it questions.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>10. Internal MCP and Guardrails</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies may eventually use an internal MCP layer as a controlled proxy.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>The MCP can connect to tools through APIs.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>It can give the team access to AI-powered workflows while maintaining guardrails.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>The goal is controlled access, not just letting AI freely touch everything.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Possible uses:</p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Search agency docs.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Pull project status.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Check time tracking.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Review support history.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Query website data.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Trigger approved automations.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The more AI gets access to real tools, the more agencies need permission layers and guardrails.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>11. Vibe-Coded Agency Tools</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies are starting to vibe-code internal tools they never would have had time or budget to build before.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Examples:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Website management dashboards</li>\n\n\n\n<li>QA tools</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Reporting tools</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Client health dashboards</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Project profitability dashboards</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Launch checkers</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tools combining project management, time tracking, and accounting data</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This gives agency owners a more nuanced view of the business.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The value of vibe-coding is not always building a perfect SaaS product. Sometimes it is building a scrappy internal tool that saves the team 30 minutes every week.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>12. QA, Checklists, and Testing</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI is very useful for creating QA checklists.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tools like Claude with skills can be taught a repeatable launch process.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>AI can help generate launch checklists and even assist with running through parts of them.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This becomes powerful when paired with actual testing tools.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tie-in to CheckView:</p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies need better ways to verify that websites and automations are actually working.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>AI can suggest what to check, but testing confirms whether it works.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This is where tools like CheckView fit into the shift toward more automated QA and monitoring.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AI can help create the checklist, but you still need systems that verify the work actually works.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>13. The WordPress Plugin Market Impact</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI is making it easier to build small WordPress plugin utilities.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This may hurt the market for small utility plugins.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Agencies can now create small, custom plugins or snippets for specific client needs.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Larger plugin companies may respond by focusing more on larger platform-style products with stronger moats.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Small utility plugins may become less attractive as standalone businesses.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The tiny utility plugin market may get squeezed because agencies can now build small custom utilities much faster than before.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>14. Experimenting Beyond WordPress</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Some agencies are experimenting with static sites, Astro, and other platforms.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>AI makes it easier to test unfamiliar stacks.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This does not mean WordPress disappears.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>It does mean agencies may be more willing to choose different tools for different project types.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>WordPress will still make sense where clients need editing, plugins, WooCommerce, memberships, content workflows, and flexible admin tools.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AI may make agencies more platform-flexible, but WordPress still has a huge advantage when clients need a mature content and plugin ecosystem.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>15. Risks and Cautions</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Security issues</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Credentials, permissions, API access, and client data need to be handled carefully.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Poor error handling</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI-built tools often work for the happy path but fail on edge cases.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Many lack proper testing, validation, logging, and fallback behavior.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>No long-term maintenance plan</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Vibe-coded tools can create hidden technical debt.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Once a tool touches client data, billing, credentials, or production systems, it needs real engineering thought.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Sensitive client data in AI tools</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies need to be careful about pasting client data into SaaS AI tools.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>There are privacy, contractual, and data leakage concerns.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Over-dependence on AI vendors</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies that make core offerings too AI-dependent could be exposed if tool costs rise.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>If the AI bubble cools or pricing changes, AI-heavy workflows may become more expensive.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>AI still makes mistakes</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI can be confidently wrong.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>If a human made up facts this often, you would probably fire them.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Agencies still need human review, especially for strategy, legal-sensitive work, code, security, and client-facing communication.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">AI can make bad thinking look very professional, and that is one of the biggest risks.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>16. Likely Outcomes for Agencies</strong></h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Smaller teams will do more</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI may allow agencies to stay leaner.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Some agency teams may shrink, or at least avoid hiring as quickly.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>More productized services</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>AI makes it easier to package repeatable offerings.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>Example:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>An agency serving service businesses could automate intake, site planning, reporting, review analysis, landing page recommendations, and follow-up workflows.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>More technical differentiation</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Agencies may differentiate through operations, automation, integrations, monitoring, and QA, not just design.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Agency tools will change</strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Less focus on purely development-specific tools.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>More demand for automation, QA, testing, monitoring, and operational visibility.</li>\n\n\n\n<li>This connects directly to CheckView because agencies need to know whether the websites, forms, checkouts, and automations they manage are actually working.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good framing line:</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The next wave of agency tools may be less about building websites and more about proving that everything connected to the website is working.</p>\n</details>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Useful links</h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://wptavern.com/podcast/215-matt-schwartz-on-exploring-ais-impact-in-wordpress-agencies-part-1\">Part 1 of this two part podcast series can be listened to here</a></p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Matt&#8217;s agency &#8211; <a href=\"https://www.inspry.com\">Inspry</a></p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://checkview.io\">CheckView</a></p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://theadminbar.com\">The Admin Bar</a></p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://man